Re: Forky installer speakup does not work after installation but orca does

Hi, Yes I got the same issue and following those steps did fix the 
problem.  What is the proper way to get these steps into that bug report 
that I sent the issue to as this could really be probably fixed in 
another way then installing and removing packages?  Nick Gawronski

On 3/24/2026 9:30 AM, Chevelle wrote:
> Nick, try typing 'amixer' as root and see if it gives you a message like 
> 'host not accessible'.  If it does then you could paste the information 
> I had in the other message into your trouble ticket.  Or maybe we need 
> to open a new issue, I'm not sure.
> 
> 
> On 3/23/26 4:55 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> Hi, I submitted the logs to this debian Bug#1111121: installation- 
>> reports: Forky debian-installer the same issue exists. Nick Gawronski
>>
>> On 3/23/2026 1:58 PM, Chevelle wrote:
>>> Speakup works fine in the console on Debian testing.  It is possible 
>>> I changed something since I installed it a while back.  I assume you 
>>> installed the 'espeak' package.  Without knowing how you installed it 
>>> or what you did, it is hard to troubleshoot remotely.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/23/26 1:10 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>>> Hi, Yes I totally understand and this is what I meant when I said 
>>>> that speakup works much better in the console then orca does in the 
>>>> graphical terminal.  My issue is that on Forky, if I press control 
>>>> and alt and f1 I get no speech from the espeakup software and when 
>>>> working with the shell I prefer to use the console and not the 
>>>> graphical terminal application as like I said before orca will read 
>>>> things that speakup will not as it reads what updates and not what 
>>>> has already been read.  I prefer working in the text consoles and 
>>>> not the graphical terminals when I need to use the shell. Nick 
>>>> Gawronski
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2026 3:15 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>>>>> As Glenn correctly points out, speakup only works in a console and 
>>>>> ORCA only works in the graphical user interface (GUI) and opening 
>>>>> up a text terminal inside the GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> New comers often mix up running a text terminal in Orca compared 
>>>>> with directly opening one of the virtual consoles.
>>>>>
>>>>> A console refers to the system's low-level text interface, such as 
>>>>> virtual consoles (TTYs accessed via Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6), which provide 
>>>>> direct, full-screen access to the OS kernel and shell without a 
>>>>> graphical environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> A terminal (or terminal emulator like GNOME Terminal which uses 
>>>>> Orca) is a graphical windowed application within a desktop 
>>>>> environment (e.g., opened via Ctrl+Alt+T) that emulates a console, 
>>>>> passing input to a shell and displaying output.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm confused if everyone understands the difference because it's 
>>>>> easy to confuse them but they are two different things.
>>>>>
>>>>> If everyone already knows this,  I apologize, but years ago I 
>>>>> thought orca running GNOME terminal was what people were 
>>>>> talking about when they mentioned the "console". It isn't, it is 
>>>>> more basic than the Graphical User Interface (GUI), it's running 
>>>>> underneath the GUI, underneath Orca. Open it up as I described in 
>>>>> the first paragraph. The Graphical environment GUI runs in a 
>>>>> console, but the other consoles are available for use. Often F1 is 
>>>>> the GUI so I proposed opening the F3 console. Remember you can only 
>>>>> run console apps and direct commands in a console but you will 
>>>>> notice how much faster it is than the GUI and Orca.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Ring
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2026, 02:05 K0LNY ?? <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     I don't think you would want speakup in a terminal.
>>>>>     I am guessing that most people who want Speakup rather than Orca,
>>>>>     call up a
>>>>>     console and run Speakup there.
>>>>>     Speakup won't really work in a GUI session, which is where the
>>>>>     terminal is
>>>>>     running from.
>>>>>     Glenn
>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>     From: "john doe" <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>     To: <[email protected] <mailto:debian-
>>>>>     [email protected]>>
>>>>>     Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 12:44 AM
>>>>>     Subject: Re: Forky installer speakup does not work after
>>>>>     installation but
>>>>>     orca does
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 3/22/26 20:00, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>>>>      > Hi, I just installed Forky and noticed that orca comes up as 
>>>>> normal
>>>>>      > after the installation in mate but if I try to access just the
>>>>>     consoles
>>>>>      > I have no speech from speakup what so ever. This should be 
>>>>> fixed as
>>>>>      > that could really be a mess for some users and orca is not the
>>>>>     best in
>>>>>      > terminal applications.
>>>>>      >
>>>>>
>>>>>     Why according to you, Orca is not working in the terminal?
>>>>>
>>>>>     I use Orca in the terminal on a daily bases without problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>     --     John Doe
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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