Bug#1139257: marked as done (autoremoval box does not explain removal)

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From: Drew Parsons <[email protected]>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[email protected]>
Subject: autoremoval box does not explain removal
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The tracker page for fenics-dolfinx at https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fenics-dolfinx
currently includes an autoremoval box in "action needed" reporting that fenics-dolfinx
is Marked for autoremoval due to getfem.

But the provided reason is not sufficient for taking any action (beyond fixing getfem itself,
which is not always practical).

fenics-dolfinx does not depend on getfem,
and no package that fenics-dolfinx depends on depends on getfem.

The message box adds the weasel word 'transitively':  "depends (transitively) on getfem".
But what does that mean?  Again, no package that fenics-dolfinx depends on depends on getfem.
How I am supposed to interpret this adverb 'transitively'.

This instruction to autoremove "(transitively)" must come from somewhere.
It's not pixie dust sprinkled over the packages just to annoy package developers.
How does tracker know that this package is marked for autoremoval?
Where does the knowledge about this autoremoval come from?

If the reason (the transitive dependency) can't fit in the tracker info box itself,
then please at least provide a link to a page where this remove-due-to-transitive-dependency
is documented, so we can review why an unrelated package is triggering autoremoval.

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 18:08:44 +0200
From: Drew Parsons <[email protected]>
To: Andrey Rakhmatullin <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Bug#1139257: autoremoval box does not explain removal
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On 2026-06-08 12:08, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 11:49:15AM +0200, Drew Parsons wrote:
>>>>>> Where does the knowledge about this autoremoval come from?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I assume it's https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi or an 
>>>>> equivalent source.
>>>> 
>>>> This might be the link that the tracker box needs to add then.
>>> 
>>> I don't see how would this link help as it doesn't contain what you 
>>> wanted.
>> 
>> 
>> That link provides the list packages affected by the failing package.
> 
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/getfem also provides this list, and in  
> a more convenient way.

Fair point. The packages that are affected by getfem are listed in 
getfem's own autoremoval info box.
And the link to getfem's page is provided in fenics-dolfinx's 
autoremoval info box.

This is a satisfactory solution (I just have to remember to click on the 
triggering package's info box),
and it's already in place, so I'll close this bug now.
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