Re: Ballot Option: Allow public AI for translations

Marc Haber <[email protected]> Thu, 30 Jul 2026 14:21:59 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.vote
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 05:41:40PM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
>On 7/30/26 3:52 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>That being said, your proposal basically forbids using AI made 
>>available by the big global players, where the music is currently 
>>playing. While it is legitimate to do that, this privileges rich DDs 
>>who can afford big hardware to run local models or DDs with a 
>>corporate sponsor.
>
>The same will be true for anything from the big players, once the 
>subsidized plans run out. I especially love the plans that cost $100 
>per month and include $200 "worth" of tokens.

Yes, that might happen some time and I will reconsider things then. But 
we have July 2026 and personally, I'd want to be able to use what is 
offered today.

>(my mood is "all this will be over in a few months anyway, and if 
>Debian decides to embrace it, all it achieves is putting us on the 
>wrong side of history.")

that depends on what you see as the wrong side. Thinking that "there is 
your way to think and the wrong one" is undercomplex.

>>Is "public AI" as you define already available today, and what would 
>>be the approximate costs to make use of that? How good is the code 
>>produced by public AI today, compared to what for example claude 
>>produces?
>
>Which pricing tier of Claude are we comparing against?

I have never spent money on any AI (yet).

Greetings
Marc