Re: Ballot option: Allow AI-Assisted Contributions

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 at 16:48, Adrian Bunk <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Any
> > decision ruling that as derivative work requiring licenses would also
> kill
> > Wikipedia, Goodreads, IMDB and hundreds of other places on the Internet
> > that describe and books, tv shows or movies in any kind of detai.
> >...
>
> That's not true.
>
> The jury could for example decide that summaries do not have a negative
> impact on the market of the copyrighted work, but that generated sequels
> have a negative impact on the market for the upcoming "The Winds of
> Winter".


I was refering specifically to summaries.

The sequels are an intersting question in itself. In the context of the
lawsuit itself they are as laughable as the summaries as they never shown
that the LLMs were capable of generating full texts of the sequels in
question in quality sufficient to *actually* compete on any type of
marketplace. They only submitted one-page *outlines* of a supposed sequel.
Which is ..... a summary again. No *actual* enfringement, beyond fair use
was demonstrated. I would be *very* surprised if the lawyers would be able
to manage to create a full lenght, detailed and coherent narrative book
that could fool anyone in the jury that it is a real book in the GoT
series. And without that, the lawsuit is meriless. A one-page summary is
not competing in the market with a 400+ page book.

The lawsuit also, very notably, did not include the prompts and contexts of
those prompts. Without those it would be hard to determine how much the
user of the LLM actually contributed to any potential infringement
directly. This lawsuit is a fishing expedition.

And in the end, this particular direction is *entirely* meaningless in the
software context as for software there can be no copyright on "total
concept and feel, theme, characters, plot, sequence, pace, and setting". It
becomes entirely irrelevant for our discussion.
-- 
Best regards,
    Aigars Mahinovs

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 at 16:48, Adrian Bunk &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
&gt; Any<br>
&gt; decision ruling that as derivative work requiring licenses would also =
kill<br>
&gt; Wikipedia, Goodreads, IMDB and hundreds of other places on the Interne=
t<br>
&gt; that describe and books, tv shows or movies in any kind of detai.<br>
&gt;...<br>
<br>
That&#39;s not true.<br>
<br>
The jury could for example decide that summaries do not have a negative <br=
>
impact on the market of the copyrighted work, but that generated sequels <b=
r>
have a negative impact on the market for the upcoming &quot;The Winds of Wi=
nter&quot;.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was refering specifically to =
summaries.</div><div><br></div><div>The sequels are an intersting question =
in itself. In the context of the lawsuit itself they are as laughable as th=
e summaries as they never shown that the LLMs were capable of generating fu=
ll texts of the sequels in question in quality sufficient to *actually* com=
pete on any type of marketplace. They only submitted one-page *outlines* of=
 a supposed sequel. Which is ..... a summary again. No *actual* enfringemen=
t, beyond fair use was demonstrated. I would be *very* surprised if the law=
yers would be able to manage to create a full lenght, detailed and coherent=
 narrative book that could fool anyone in the jury that it is a real book i=
n the GoT series. And without that, the lawsuit is meriless. A one-page sum=
mary is not competing in the market with a 400+ page book.</div><div><br></=
div><div>The lawsuit also, very notably, did not include the prompts and co=
ntexts of those prompts. Without those it would be hard to determine how mu=
ch the user of the LLM actually contributed to any potential infringement d=
irectly. This lawsuit is a fishing expedition.</div><div><br></div><div>And=
 in the end, this particular direction is *entirely* meaningless in the sof=
tware context as for software there can be no copyright on &quot;total conc=
ept and feel, theme, characters, plot, sequence, pace, and setting&quot;. I=
t becomes entirely irrelevant for our discussion.</div></div><span class=3D=
"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_sign=
ature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Best regards,<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Aigars Mahinovs</div=
></div></div>

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