Bug#924172: www.debian.org: differences under english/ between builds in stretch and buster

Hi Axel,

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 13:51:28 +0200
Axel Beckert <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Shlomi,
> 
> Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > 2. The newest release of wml is 2.28.0 (see
> > https://github.com/thewml/website-meta-language/releases )  
> 
> I know.
> 
> > while Debian sid is stuck at 2.12.x (see
> > https://packages.debian.org/sid/wml ).  
> 
> Yes, as I didn't get any newer releases (up to 2.24) to build properly
> anymore. You can see my tries here:
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/wml/-/tree/2.20.4-pkg-incomplete
> (ignore the version in the branch name, I didn't expect this to last
> several upstream releases).
> 
> IIRC I had test suite failures. Need to check 2.28 again. (And yes, I
> know, I haven't filed an upstream bug report yet — still haven't
> figured out what exactly is the cause for the failures.)
> 

Ah - thanks for the update. I guess I can try building the package myself in a
VM/container. For the record, the build and tests pass fine in travis-ci/ubuntu
bionic , locally on fedora and mageia, on the mageia build system, and on
appveyor/mswin10/cygwin .

> > I'd rather not support such an old release,  
> 
> It's not about Debian Unstable, it's about the WML version in current
> Debian Unstable (which only happens to be the same upstream version as
> in Debian Unstable for the reasons mentioned above) and Debian (well,
> I) will support this until the EoL of Debian 10 Buster.
>

ok.
 
> > so if the new version still exhibits some
> > regressions, please send a failing testcase to
> > https://github.com/thewml/website-meta-language/tree/master/src/wml_test and
> > I'll try to fix it.  
> 
> Will do — as soon I get it building again.
> 

I'll try to help.

> > Converting some of my sites away from wml has shortened their build times
> > considerably.  
> 
> But are they as flexible as before while still being statically
> compiled? I doubt.
> 

They are still "statically compiled" (or generated:
https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-tech-diary/blob/master/static-site-generators--despair.md
), and I verified that they generated the same output before and after using
"diff -u -r", html-minifier and other tools. Template Toolkit is fairly
flexible and has fewer "WTF?" surprises than wml, as I discovered some
misrendered output during the conversions. There may be some features that only
wml has and TT doesn't, but I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

> 		Regards, Axel



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