Bug#924172: www.debian.org: differences under english/ between builds in stretch and buster

Hi Shlomi,

[taking Cyril and Laura out of the loop]

Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > IIRC I had test suite failures. Need to check 2.28 again. (And yes, I
> > know, I haven't filed an upstream bug report yet — still haven't
> > figured out what exactly is the cause for the failures.)
> 
> Ah - thanks for the update. I guess I can try building the package
> myself in a VM/container. For the record, the build and tests pass
> fine in travis-ci/ubuntu bionic , locally on fedora and mageia, on
> the mageia build system, and on appveyor/mswin10/cygwin .

Yeah, another reason for not having it reported upstream is that I'm
not yet sure if one of the Debian patches is the culprit.

Regarding Travis CI: IMHO its value is quite limited by the fact that
Travis is nearly always two or more years behind the latest Ubuntu LTS
release. (Actually I'm kinda surprised that they in the meanwhile
managed to support 18.04. The last time I looked (IIRC a few months
ago around the 20.04 release) they were still on 16.04.

> > Will do — as soon I get it building again.
> 
> I'll try to help.

Appreciated, but I would kinda feel bad in case one of the Debian
patches will be identified as the culprit and someone else had to do
my work. :-)

> > > Converting some of my sites away from wml has shortened their
> > > build times considerably.
> > 
> > But are they as flexible as before while still being statically
> > compiled? I doubt.
> 
> They are still "statically compiled" (or generated:
> https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-tech-diary/blob/master/static-site-generators--despair.md
> ), and I verified that they generated the same output before and
> after using "diff -u -r", html-minifier and other tools. Template
> Toolkit is fairly flexible [...]

Ah, TT. Oh well, from my point of view, TT always felt too generic to
me. I had the feeling that I'd have to write a lot of the
infrastructure for static compiling that WML already offers (mainly
wmk, but also some of the passes like splice), myself. So I never
considered it to be a WML replacement but rather something that is on
the same level as e.g. Embperl.)

		Regards, Axel