Re: tasksel: Input methods for chinese - (Was: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.)

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I would like to request dropping the following two fonts:

* fonts-arphic-ukai
* fonts-arphic-uming

IMO there's no one really uses it, with a confusing font family names,
unmaintained, and causes glitches in certain cases like the GNU gettext
manual <
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntu.zh.hant/permalink/2225280084193968/>
etc.

It should be replaced by Noto Serif CJK/Source Han Serif fonts.

=E6=9E=97=E5=8D=9A=E4=BB=81(Buo-ren, Lin)
[email protected]


"Yao Wei (=E9=AD=8F=E9=8A=98=E5=BB=B7)" <[email protected]> =E6=96=BC 2019=E5=
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> Hi,
>
> > On Jan 12, 2019, at 16:35, Holger Wansing <hwansing-cl+VPiYnx/[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > And for traditional Chinese:
> >
> > Package: task-chinese-t-desktop
> > Architecture: all
> > Description: Traditional Chinese desktop
> > This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.
> > Depends: ${misc:Depends},
> > Recommends:
> >       scim,
> >       scim-chewing,
> >       scim-gtk-immodule,
> >       im-config,
> >       fonts-arphic-ukai,
> >       fonts-arphic-uming,
> > # seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
> >       fonts-noto,
> >       fonts-noto-cjk,
> >       libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> >       libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> >       firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> > # poppler-data is needed to display
> > # Chinese on poppler applications.
> >       poppler-data
> >
> > Is this working so far, or should things be improved, to close this bug=
?
>
> Currently, the following set is recommended (for GNOME3 desktop) instead
> of the ones above, because current GNOME3 has native support on ibus
> (and probably fcitx):
>
> ibus,
> ibus-chewing,
> ibus-table,
> im-config,
> fonts-arphic-ukai,
> fonts-arphic-uming,
> fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
> fonts-noto-cjk,
> libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> poppler-data
>
> or we can follow task-chinese-s-desktop and use fcitx instead of ibus in
> task-chinese-t-desktop:
>
> fcitx,
> fcitx-chewing,
> fcitx-table,
> im-config,
> fonts-arphic-ukai,
> fonts-arphic-uming,
> fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
> fonts-noto-cjk,
> libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> poppler-data
>
> Other input methods like gcin and hime are also available, but I seldom
> see people using SCIM.
>
> Just 2 cents,
> Yao Wei
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I would like to request dropping the=
 following two fonts:</div><div><br></div><div>* fonts-arphic-ukai<br>* fon=
ts-arphic-uming</div><div><br></div><div>IMO there&#39;s no one really uses=
 it, with a confusing font family names, unmaintained, and causes glitches =
in certain cases like the GNU gettext manual &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.fac=
ebook.com/groups/ubuntu.zh.hant/permalink/2225280084193968/">https://www.fa=
cebook.com/groups/ubuntu.zh.hant/permalink/2225280084193968/</a>&gt; etc.</=
div><div><br></div><div>It should be replaced by Noto Serif CJK/Source Han =
Serif fonts.</div><div><br></div><div>=E6=9E=97=E5=8D=9A=E4=BB=81(Buo-ren, =
Lin)</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]=
om</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&quot;Yao Wei (=E9=AD=8F=E9=8A=98=E5=BB=B7)&quot; &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =E6=96=BC 2019=E5=B9=
=B41=E6=9C=8812=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=85=AD =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=885:02=E5=AF=AB=
=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">Hi,<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 12, 2019, at 16:35, Holger Wansing &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hwansi=
ng-cl+VPiYnx/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">hwansing-cl+VPiYnx/[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; And for traditional Chinese:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Package: task-chinese-t-desktop<br>
&gt; Architecture: all<br>
&gt; Description: Traditional Chinese desktop<br>
&gt; This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.<br>
&gt; Depends: ${misc:Depends},<br>
&gt; Recommends:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scim,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scim-chewing,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scim-gtk-immodule,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0im-config,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fonts-arphic-ukai,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fonts-arphic-uming,<br>
&gt; # seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fonts-noto,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fonts-noto-cjk,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0libreoffice-help-zh-tw,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,=
<br>
&gt; # poppler-data is needed to display<br>
&gt; # Chinese on poppler applications.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0poppler-data<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Is this working so far, or should things be improved, to close this bu=
g?<br>
<br>
Currently, the following set is recommended (for GNOME3 desktop) instead<br=
>
of the ones above, because current GNOME3 has native support on ibus<br>
(and probably fcitx):<br>
<br>
ibus,<br>
ibus-chewing,<br>
ibus-table,<br>
im-config,<br>
fonts-arphic-ukai,<br>
fonts-arphic-uming,<br>
fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.<br>
fonts-noto-cjk,<br>
libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
libreoffice-help-zh-tw,<br>
firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
poppler-data<br>
<br>
or we can follow task-chinese-s-desktop and use fcitx instead of ibus in<br=
>
task-chinese-t-desktop:<br>
<br>
fcitx,<br>
fcitx-chewing,<br>
fcitx-table,<br>
im-config,<br>
fonts-arphic-ukai,<br>
fonts-arphic-uming,<br>
fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.<br>
fonts-noto-cjk,<br>
libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
libreoffice-help-zh-tw,<br>
firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
poppler-data<br>
<br>
Other input methods like gcin and hime are also available, but I seldom<br>
see people using SCIM.<br>
<br>
Just 2 cents,<br>
Yao Wei<br>
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