Re: tasksel: Input methods for chinese - (Was: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.)

"Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" <[email protected]> Sat, 12 Jan 2019 18:09:06 +0800
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What's the recommended Kai font replacement for Arphic one?

Yao Wei

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> On Jan 12, 2019, at 17:34, =E6=9E=97=E5=8D=9A=E4=BB=81 <buo.ren.lin@gmail.=
com> wrote:
>=20
> I would like to request dropping the following two fonts:
>=20
> * fonts-arphic-ukai
> * fonts-arphic-uming
>=20
> IMO there's no one really uses it, with a confusing font family names, unm=
aintained, and causes glitches in certain cases like the GNU gettext manual <=
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntu.zh.hant/permalink/2225280084193968/> e=
tc.
>=20
> It should be replaced by Noto Serif CJK/Source Han Serif fonts.
>=20
> =E6=9E=97=E5=8D=9A=E4=BB=81(Buo-ren, Lin)
> [email protected]
>=20
>=20
> "Yao Wei (=E9=AD=8F=E9=8A=98=E5=BB=B7)" <[email protected]> =E6=96=BC 2019=E5=
=B9=B41=E6=9C=8812=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=85=AD =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=885:02=E5=AF=AB=
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>> Hi,
>>=20
>> > On Jan 12, 2019, at 16:35, Holger Wansing <hwansing-cl+VPiYnx/[email protected]> wrote:=

>> >=20
>> > And for traditional Chinese:
>> >=20
>> > Package: task-chinese-t-desktop
>> > Architecture: all
>> > Description: Traditional Chinese desktop
>> > This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.
>> > Depends: ${misc:Depends},
>> > Recommends:
>> >       scim,
>> >       scim-chewing,
>> >       scim-gtk-immodule,
>> >       im-config,
>> >       fonts-arphic-ukai,
>> >       fonts-arphic-uming,
>> > # seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
>> >       fonts-noto,
>> >       fonts-noto-cjk,
>> >       libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
>> >       libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
>> >       firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
>> > # poppler-data is needed to display
>> > # Chinese on poppler applications.
>> >       poppler-data
>> >=20
>> > Is this working so far, or should things be improved, to close this bug=
?
>>=20
>> Currently, the following set is recommended (for GNOME3 desktop) instead
>> of the ones above, because current GNOME3 has native support on ibus
>> (and probably fcitx):
>>=20
>> ibus,
>> ibus-chewing,
>> ibus-table,
>> im-config,
>> fonts-arphic-ukai,
>> fonts-arphic-uming,
>> fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
>> fonts-noto-cjk,
>> libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
>> libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
>> firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
>> poppler-data
>>=20
>> or we can follow task-chinese-s-desktop and use fcitx instead of ibus in
>> task-chinese-t-desktop:
>>=20
>> fcitx,
>> fcitx-chewing,
>> fcitx-table,
>> im-config,
>> fonts-arphic-ukai,
>> fonts-arphic-uming,
>> fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
>> fonts-noto-cjk,
>> libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
>> libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
>> firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
>> poppler-data
>>=20
>> Other input methods like gcin and hime are also available, but I seldom
>> see people using SCIM.
>>=20
>> Just 2 cents,
>> Yao Wei

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">What's the recommended Kai font replacement=
 for Arphic one?<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Yao Wei<d=
iv><br></div><div>(This email is sent from a phone; s<span style=3D"backgrou=
nd-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">orry for HTML email if it happens.</span>=
<span style=3D"font-size: 13pt;">)</span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On=
 Jan 12, 2019, at 17:34, =E6=9E=97=E5=8D=9A=E4=BB=81 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v>I would like to request dropping the following two fonts:</div><div><br></=
div><div>* fonts-arphic-ukai<br>* fonts-arphic-uming</div><div><br></div><di=
v>IMO there's no one really uses it, with a confusing font family names, unm=
aintained, and causes glitches in certain cases like the GNU gettext manual &=
lt;<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntu.zh.hant/permalink/22252=
80084193968/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntu.zh.hant/permalink/22252=
80084193968/</a>&gt; etc.</div><div><br></div><div>It should be replaced by N=
oto Serif CJK/Source Han Serif fonts.</div><div><br></div><div>=E6=9E=97=E5=8D=
=9A=E4=BB=81(Buo-ren, Lin)</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
">[email protected]</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">"Yao Wei (=E9=AD=8F=E9=8A=98=E5=BB=B7)" &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =E6=96=BC 2019=
=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8812=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=85=AD =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=885:02=E5=AF=
=AB=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 12, 2019, at 16:35, Holger Wansing &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hwansin=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">hwansing-cl+VPiYnx/[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; And for traditional Chinese:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Package: task-chinese-t-desktop<br>
&gt; Architecture: all<br>
&gt; Description: Traditional Chinese desktop<br>
&gt; This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.<br>
&gt; Depends: ${misc:Depends},<br>
&gt; Recommends:<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;scim,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;scim-chewing,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;scim-gtk-immodule,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;im-config,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fonts-arphic-ukai,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fonts-arphic-uming,<br>
&gt; # seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fonts-noto,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fonts-noto-cjk,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;libreoffice-help-zh-tw,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,<=
br>
&gt; # poppler-data is needed to display<br>
&gt; # Chinese on poppler applications.<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;poppler-data<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Is this working so far, or should things be improved, to close this bug=
?<br>
<br>
Currently, the following set is recommended (for GNOME3 desktop) instead<br>=

of the ones above, because current GNOME3 has native support on ibus<br>
(and probably fcitx):<br>
<br>
ibus,<br>
ibus-chewing,<br>
ibus-table,<br>
im-config,<br>
fonts-arphic-ukai,<br>
fonts-arphic-uming,<br>
fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.<br>
fonts-noto-cjk,<br>
libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
libreoffice-help-zh-tw,<br>
firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
poppler-data<br>
<br>
or we can follow task-chinese-s-desktop and use fcitx instead of ibus in<br>=

task-chinese-t-desktop:<br>
<br>
fcitx,<br>
fcitx-chewing,<br>
fcitx-table,<br>
im-config,<br>
fonts-arphic-ukai,<br>
fonts-arphic-uming,<br>
fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.<br>
fonts-noto-cjk,<br>
libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
libreoffice-help-zh-tw,<br>
firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,<br>
poppler-data<br>
<br>
Other input methods like gcin and hime are also available, but I seldom<br>
see people using SCIM.<br>
<br>
Just 2 cents,<br>
Yao Wei<br>
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