Re: Plasma versions and Debian point-releases
Aurélien COUDERC <[email protected]> Mon, 17 Nov 2025 23:39:57 +0100
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Hi,
Plasma 6=2Ex releases are definitely *not* minor releases, check any of th=
e upstream release notes=2E
They all introduce UI and workflow changes (and bugs) that are exactly wha=
t we don't want in stable=2E
Like Patrick said the Debian policy is only to backport specific commits f=
or specific fixes into stable=2E
Happy hacking,
--
Aur=C3=A9lien
Le 17 novembre 2025 22:51:29 GMT+01:00, Quentin Aymard <quentin=2Eaymard@p=
roton=2Eme> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>Thank you Patrick for clarifying=2E
>
>I thought point-releases of Debian were aimed at uploading newer versions=
of packages to Stable as long as the feature set remained consistent (no b=
reaking change or major user experience modification)=2E
>
>Does this mean I misunderstood the idea behind point-releases, or do Debi=
an KDE team consider minor releases (eg 6=2Ex) of Plasma to be "too much" o=
f a jump forward, making them unsuitable for point-releases ?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Le lundi 17 novembre 2025 =C3=A0 19:53, Patrick Franz <deltaone@debian=2E=
org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi Quentin,
>>=20
>> Am Montag, 17=2E November 2025, 19:08:34 Mitteleurop=C3=A4ische Normalz=
eit
>> schrieb Quentin Aymard:
>>=20
>> > Hi,
>> >=20
>> > I'm still new to some parts of Debian's and KDE's lifecycle=2E I thin=
k I
>> > understand that :
>> >=20
>> > - hotfixes from upstream Plasma (6=2E3=2Ex) should end up in or be
>> > backported to Debian stable ;
>> >=20
>> > - minor versions of Plasma (eg=2E 6=2E5) might at some point become
>> > available in Debian stable through upcoming point-releases (eg 13=2E3=
,
>> > 13=2E4, etc) in place of the current minor version (6=2E3=2Ex) ;
>> >=20
>> > - as opposed to major versions (eg=2E something like Plasma 7=2Ex far=
in
>> > the future) that should only be included in unstable then testing, as
>> > the "next-stable" channel, preparing the future of Debian 14=2E
>> >=20
>> > Am I correct ?
>>=20
>>=20
>> Partially=2E Debian Stable will only get targeted fixes ("hotfixes") th=
at
>> each fix one particular issue=2E Since Plasma 6=2E3 is EOL, those will =
then
>> have to be backported from newer Plasma releases=2E
>>=20
>> However, Debian Stable will stay on Plasma 6=2E3=2E It is not going to =
get
>> Plasma 6=2E4, 6=2E5 or whatever=2E Updating Plasma to later releases wo=
uld
>> defy the point of "stable"=2E
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Med v=C3=A4nliga h=C3=A4lsningar
>>=20
>> Patrick Franz
>
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<html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">Hi,<br><br>Plasma 6=2Ex releases=
are definitely *not* minor releases, check any of the upstream release not=
es=2E<br><br>They all introduce UI and workflow changes (and bugs) that are=
exactly what we don't want in stable=2E<br><br>Like Patrick said the Debia=
n policy is only to backport specific commits for specific fixes into stabl=
e=2E<br><br><br>Happy hacking,<br>--<br>Aur=C3=A9lien<br></div><br><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">Le 17 novembre 2025 22:51:29 GMT+0=
1:00, Quentin Aymard <quentin=2Eaymard@proton=2Eme> a =C3=A9crit=C2=
=A0:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"k9mail"><div dir=3D"auto">Thank you Patrick for clarifying=
=2E<br><br>I thought point-releases of Debian were aimed at uploading newer=
versions of packages to Stable as long as the feature set remained consist=
ent (no breaking change or major user experience modification)=2E<br><br>Do=
es this mean I misunderstood the idea behind point-releases, or do Debian K=
DE team consider minor releases (eg 6=2Ex) of Plasma to be "too much" of a =
jump forward, making them unsuitable for point-releases ?<br><br>Thanks<br>=
<br><br>Le lundi 17 novembre 2025 =C3=A0 19:53, Patrick Franz <deltaone@=
debian=2Eorg> a =C3=A9crit :<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729f=
cf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"auto"><br><br>Hi Quentin,<br><br>Am Mon=
tag, 17=2E November 2025, 19:08:34 Mitteleurop=C3=A4ische Normalzeit<br>sch=
rieb Quentin Aymard:<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-le=
ft: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi,<br><br>I'm still new to some parts of Debia=
n's and KDE's lifecycle=2E I think I<br>understand that :<br><br>- hotfixes=
from upstream Plasma (6=2E3=2Ex) should end up in or be<br>backported to D=
ebian stable ;<br><br>- minor versions of Plasma (eg=2E 6=2E5) might at som=
e point become<br>available in Debian stable through upcoming point-release=
s (eg 13=2E3,<br>13=2E4, etc) in place of the current minor version (6=2E3=
=2Ex) ;<br><br>- as opposed to major versions (eg=2E something like Plasma =
7=2Ex far in<br>the future) that should only be included in unstable then t=
esting, as<br>the "next-stable" channel, preparing the future of Debian 14=
=2E<br><br>Am I correct ?<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br><br>P=
artially=2E Debian Stable will only get targeted fixes ("hotfixes") that<br=
>each fix one particular issue=2E Since Plasma 6=2E3 is EOL, those will the=
n<br>have to be backported from newer Plasma releases=2E<br><br>However, De=
bian Stable will stay on Plasma 6=2E3=2E It is not going to get<br>Plasma 6=
=2E4, 6=2E5 or whatever=2E Updating Plasma to later releases would<br>defy =
the point of "stable"=2E<br><br><br>--<br>Med v=C3=A4nliga h=C3=A4lsningar<=
br><br>Patrick Franz<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></pr=
e></blockquote></div></body></html>
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