Re: Initial Thoughts, migration from Ubuntu ahead

Do I need GCC? Would the compilation succeed with LLVM clang?

I'd still like trying building Gobo from scratch, as it reveals me
much about the linux and gobo both.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Viola Zoltán <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think, you not should build the new Gobo from scratch. Much easyer start
> with/in the old GoboRelease, and make it up-to-date step-by-step. I think,
> the good order are cca as it written in the LFS:
>
> 1. New Glibc
> 2. New GCC
> 3. Make, BinUtils, etc
> 4. Ncurses (need to menuconfig), readline, etc...
> 5. kernel...
> 6. Other stuffs...
>
> Zoli
>
> 2013/6/6 Henri Tuhola <[email protected]>
>>
>> It seems I should compile the new kernel.. and provide version of
>> GoboLinux that works with one. I should start with Linux From Scratch
>> perhaps?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Viola Zoltán <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hello Henri, excuse me for the bad English... I am from Hungary. (but
>> > now I
>> > live in the USA). The GoboLinux-idea very good, this is my likely "Loved
>> > One" distro. I wrote a book (in hungarian language) about it long time
>> > ago.
>> > But, sorry, the latest release very obsolete, and Hisham said, that the
>> > developers no more develop this distro, not coming soon fresh release! I
>> > tryed create a new, cca up-to-date release, as my "special edition". It
>> > work
>> > on my computer, good, but I am not satisfied with it, because I cannot
>> > compile lot of programs good with the new GCC, Glibc and Ncurses.
>> > Because
>> > this, I cannot compile new kernel, the make menuconfig not work (it need
>> > new
>> > ncurses). Without ncurses, I cannot compile my preferred musicplayer,
>> > the
>> > "moc" (music on console). And, I have other problem: I not have enough
>> > knowledge to compile and install new udev!
>> > The biggest problem in the compiling of moc and other stuf, in the new
>> > behavior of "ld". (This is in the BinUtils). The developers of "ld" was
>> > modifyed (changed) the behavior of new "ld". And I not have enough
>> > knowledge, re-create the Makefiles of lot of programs (ncurses, moc, and
>> > others).
>> >
>> > Other programs give me not too big and lot of problems, thats work good.
>> > Sorry, I am not a "profi hacker", just a "power user". But, I tell you,
>> > that
>> > I not like the "userfriendly", "eyecandy" desktop environments (Gnome,
>> > KDE...), I think, there are bloatwares, and superfluous. My preferred
>> > windows manager is the "SithWM"... If you can create a fresh
>> > commandline-capable new minimal-gobolinux-release, with new Udev, GCC,
>> > Glibc, kernel, and ncurses (and mc, for trying the new ncurses...) I
>> > would
>> > like help to you in the developing, but not in the KDE and Gnome
>> > desktop! I
>> > like maximum the XFCE, but better any *box.  Or maybe LXDE. Or any other
>> > very minimal window manager. I very like and preferre the
>> > commandline-tools
>> > and programs (and ncurses, xbindkeys...).
>> >
>> > Zoli
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/6/6 Henri Tuhola <[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >> I installed GoboLinux to virtualbox today, in Ubuntu. It still takes
>> >> some time for me to figure out where everything is now though! Now I
>> >> think I might like this thing, but I'd need to understand it far much
>> >> better than what I do. I might need some initial help on installing it
>> >> to more machines. I'm also considering to become a contributor to
>> >> GoboLinux.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've read the at glance, FAQ, unix tree rethought, clueless, and
>> >> glanced some other pages in documentation. Going to read more
>> >> tomorrow, perhaps even going far as installing it to my machine! For
>> >> that I'd need to get nvidia drivers, steam and chrome working, and
>> >> maybe catch some window manager that doesn't drive me crazy, xfce for
>> >> example.. or openbox.
>> >>
>> >> For development, I'd also probably want to install gobolinux to
>> >> raspberry pi, so I could do some wayland stuff that is not running in
>> >> my primary machine at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> IF it turns out GoboLinux is exactly what I'm looking at, then it
>> >> means I will be probably modifying it. I think I'd like to work on
>> >> GoboLinux at times, to make it more friendly to people such as artists
>> >> and elderly people. This would mainly mean improvements to the
>> >> Manager, some way to handle always running services in user-friendly
>> >> manner (RunIt perhaps?), changes into graphics environment, to make it
>> >> easier to manage the system.
>> >>
>> >> Heh.. it feels that so little few small things are wrong once every
>> >> program is located where they actually SHOULD be. I might turn out
>> >> with my own distro in the process.
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