Re: Initial Thoughts, migration from Ubuntu ahead

Okay, start it from scratch, if you are a profi hacker! Have a good day
(week...)! I please you, during building it from scratch, please write the
building method (order) step-by-step, how you do it, and, if/when you have
succes, you have a working new Gobo-distro, you can write a book about this
procedure, named "GFS" (=Gobo From Scratch).

Zoli

2013/6/6 Henri Tuhola <[email protected]>

> Do I need GCC? Would the compilation succeed with LLVM clang?
>
> I'd still like trying building Gobo from scratch, as it reveals me
> much about the linux and gobo both.
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Viola Zoltán <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think, you not should build the new Gobo from scratch. Much easyer
> start
> > with/in the old GoboRelease, and make it up-to-date step-by-step. I
> think,
> > the good order are cca as it written in the LFS:
> >
> > 1. New Glibc
> > 2. New GCC
> > 3. Make, BinUtils, etc
> > 4. Ncurses (need to menuconfig), readline, etc...
> > 5. kernel...
> > 6. Other stuffs...
> >
> > Zoli
> >
> > 2013/6/6 Henri Tuhola <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> It seems I should compile the new kernel.. and provide version of
> >> GoboLinux that works with one. I should start with Linux From Scratch
> >> perhaps?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Viola Zoltán <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > Hello Henri, excuse me for the bad English... I am from Hungary. (but
> >> > now I
> >> > live in the USA). The GoboLinux-idea very good, this is my likely
> "Loved
> >> > One" distro. I wrote a book (in hungarian language) about it long time
> >> > ago.
> >> > But, sorry, the latest release very obsolete, and Hisham said, that
> the
> >> > developers no more develop this distro, not coming soon fresh
> release! I
> >> > tryed create a new, cca up-to-date release, as my "special edition".
> It
> >> > work
> >> > on my computer, good, but I am not satisfied with it, because I cannot
> >> > compile lot of programs good with the new GCC, Glibc and Ncurses.
> >> > Because
> >> > this, I cannot compile new kernel, the make menuconfig not work (it
> need
> >> > new
> >> > ncurses). Without ncurses, I cannot compile my preferred musicplayer,
> >> > the
> >> > "moc" (music on console). And, I have other problem: I not have enough
> >> > knowledge to compile and install new udev!
> >> > The biggest problem in the compiling of moc and other stuf, in the new
> >> > behavior of "ld". (This is in the BinUtils). The developers of "ld"
> was
> >> > modifyed (changed) the behavior of new "ld". And I not have enough
> >> > knowledge, re-create the Makefiles of lot of programs (ncurses, moc,
> and
> >> > others).
> >> >
> >> > Other programs give me not too big and lot of problems, thats work
> good.
> >> > Sorry, I am not a "profi hacker", just a "power user". But, I tell
> you,
> >> > that
> >> > I not like the "userfriendly", "eyecandy" desktop environments (Gnome,
> >> > KDE...), I think, there are bloatwares, and superfluous. My preferred
> >> > windows manager is the "SithWM"... If you can create a fresh
> >> > commandline-capable new minimal-gobolinux-release, with new Udev, GCC,
> >> > Glibc, kernel, and ncurses (and mc, for trying the new ncurses...) I
> >> > would
> >> > like help to you in the developing, but not in the KDE and Gnome
> >> > desktop! I
> >> > like maximum the XFCE, but better any *box.  Or maybe LXDE. Or any
> other
> >> > very minimal window manager. I very like and preferre the
> >> > commandline-tools
> >> > and programs (and ncurses, xbindkeys...).
> >> >
> >> > Zoli
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2013/6/6 Henri Tuhola <[email protected]>
> >> >>
> >> >> I installed GoboLinux to virtualbox today, in Ubuntu. It still takes
> >> >> some time for me to figure out where everything is now though! Now I
> >> >> think I might like this thing, but I'd need to understand it far much
> >> >> better than what I do. I might need some initial help on installing
> it
> >> >> to more machines. I'm also considering to become a contributor to
> >> >> GoboLinux.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I've read the at glance, FAQ, unix tree rethought, clueless, and
> >> >> glanced some other pages in documentation. Going to read more
> >> >> tomorrow, perhaps even going far as installing it to my machine! For
> >> >> that I'd need to get nvidia drivers, steam and chrome working, and
> >> >> maybe catch some window manager that doesn't drive me crazy, xfce for
> >> >> example.. or openbox.
> >> >>
> >> >> For development, I'd also probably want to install gobolinux to
> >> >> raspberry pi, so I could do some wayland stuff that is not running in
> >> >> my primary machine at the moment.
> >> >>
> >> >> IF it turns out GoboLinux is exactly what I'm looking at, then it
> >> >> means I will be probably modifying it. I think I'd like to work on
> >> >> GoboLinux at times, to make it more friendly to people such as
> artists
> >> >> and elderly people. This would mainly mean improvements to the
> >> >> Manager, some way to handle always running services in user-friendly
> >> >> manner (RunIt perhaps?), changes into graphics environment, to make
> it
> >> >> easier to manage the system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Heh.. it feels that so little few small things are wrong once every
> >> >> program is located where they actually SHOULD be. I might turn out
> >> >> with my own distro in the process.
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