Re: Systemd

I agree with Magnus, I think systemd it's nice for desktops and laptops
(specially there because either you hibernate or shutdown, and since
hibernating it's not in the best of the status in Linux ...), and as long
as you don't touch much it's pretty stable, anywhere where you need to be
able to fiddle with it  as much as possible (due to it's known, great list
of bugs) it may not be the best of the choices.
I don't find systemd as bad as people see it ( for me it's a potential
threat , not a direct one ), what I really don't like it's how one of it's
higher developer seem to be so carefree about bugs (and what that means).

2014-11-27 20:25 GMT+01:00 Magnus Johnsson <[email protected]>:

> The question is as always 'What is it that you want to do'. Are you
> running your system on a laptop? SystemD might be exactly what your are
> looking for. Are you running it on a server? SystemV's simplicity might
> make it a better choice. Right tool for the right job, etc :).
>
> 2014-11-27 20:10 GMT+01:00 Richard <[email protected]>:
>
>> uselessd would probably be an improvement since it proposes to reduce
>> coupling of systemd,
>> If you have to run or work in such environment.
>> Seems like they will always be picking up the pieces of new dependencies
>> on systemd, but I have not really looked into uselessd, so just superficial
>> reading.
>> On Nov 27, 2014 1:42 PM, "laigualdad" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a dev, but I certainly see how SystemD conflicts with the UNIX
>>> philosophy. I wonder if something like uselessd would be a viable
>>> compromise: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
>>>
>>> On November 26, 2014 10:25:21 AM EST, "Lucas C. Villa Real" <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Zbigniew <[email protected]>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> There is much talk lately about systemd. Two example voices:
>>> >>
>>> >> - why? http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html - from
>>> >> systemd creator
>>> >> - why not?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> http://wizardofbits.tumblr.com/post/45232318557/systemd-more-like-shit-stemd
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm wondering, what is Gobo-devs opinion about systemd?
>>> >> --
>>> >> Zbigniew
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>>> >
>>> >Greetings,
>>> >
>>> >Speaking for myself, I do not like the complexity path that Linux took
>>> >in
>>> >the recent years. Things have become very hard to manage and even more
>>> >difficult to debug. That includes software like PolicyKit, notification
>>> >daemons and systemd.
>>> >
>>> >Thankfully there is no strong dependency from core applications on
>>> >systemd
>>> >nowadays (that is, it is possible to have a full X11-based desktop up
>>> >and
>>> >running without it). I have no personal feelings about systemd as long
>>> >as
>>> >things are kept that way -- distros who like it are free to ship it,
>>> >and
>>> >those who don't can move on with their alternative boot process.
>>> >GoboLinux'
>>> >BootScripts are simple enough to understand and debug and, frankly, I
>>> >hardly reboot my machines nor need to quickly boot Linux-based VMs on a
>>> >daily basis -- therefore the subject has never been a concern for me.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Lucas
>>> >
>>> >
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