Re: 2D acceleration on 016.01 with Modesetting + Glamor (Intel)

"Lucas C. Villa Real" <[email protected]> Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:20:31 -0300
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On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Steve Litt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Mon, 15 May 2017 09:34:02 -0300
> "Lucas C. Villa Real" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:06 AM, Steve Litt
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 01:05:29 -0300
> > > "Lucas C. Villa Real" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > After a thorough review of the graphics stack I came up with a new
> > > > batch of recipes that will fix the problem. The following wiki
> > > > page contains instructions for those wanting to bring
> > > > acceleration to their systems:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/gobolinux/Documentation/wiki/Video-
> > > acceleration-with-Modesetting-on-016.01
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if you have any questions.
> > >
> > > Yes. Could you please add the following to the Grub menu:
> > >
> > > 1) Have the menu actually show up.
> > > 2) 20 second wait before running the default grub choice.
> > > 3) A grub choice to give a large-print, 80x25 character virtual
> > >    terminal.
> > >
> > > The preceding three things will guarantee that a person with
> > > under-average vision can at least work within the virtual terminal.
> > > Then I'd suggest the following:
> > >
> > > * A recipe for vim and gvim, set up with sane fonts so the user can
> > >   see enough to change them to suit his/her needs.
> > > * A recipe for LXDE, with large fonts, so that one with less than
> > >   average vision can actually install what he/she needs.
> > > * In the MOTD, tell the user how to set the fonts in both Awesome
> > > and LXDE, hopefully from a config file easily seen in the 80x25 CLI
> > > mode. In the MOTD, tell how to get startx to point to Awesome, and
> > > how to get it to point to LXDE.
> > >
> > > The preceding six suggestions are almost trivially simple additions,
> > > that will let those with less than average vision know they're
> > > welcome in the Gobo Linux project.
> > >
> > > SteveT
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > These are good suggestions. If you have any actual commands and
> > patches that you'd like to suggest us to incorporate, please let me
> > know. We do not revisit things like Grub very often, so that would be
> > appreciated.
>
> Hi Lucas,
>
> I counted to ten before responding. About ten weeks, actually. And my
> thoughts haven't changed in that time, so I'm responding now.
>
> You're suggesting that *I* develop the grub kernel line to make Gobo
> legible to the sub 20/20, when I've told you repeatedly it takes me 30
> minutes, each reboot of your live CD, to get it legible enough to
> figure out how to grub it. And by the way, I'm no more of a grub expert
> than you are.
>
> I'm not going to take hours or days to do something that somebody with
> better vision could do in minutes.
>

The options to include on GoboLinux's GRUB menu to enhance fonts would be
the same as the ones you'd need to include on other distro's -- so there
would be no need for you to use Gobo for that -- checking out which options
your current distro uses would suffice for that matter.

And now the discussion has turned to KDE/plasma. That pretty much tells
> me all I need to know about the project's priorities and its vision of
> its community members.
>

You are wrong. That only tells that somebody from our community wanted to
start a discussion on a different topic, under a different thread. There's
absolutely no change in priorities of the project here.


> I'll be glad to help the project, as soon as I can boot the CD and
> easily see the error messages, the virtual consoles TT1-TT6, Vim, the
> terminals etc, without having to adjust stuff I can't even see. Till
> then, I'm not going to try to fit in where I'm obviously not wanted.
>

Question: have you tried to use it on an emulated environment such as QEMU
which may give you better screen resolutions? Adjusting the UI stack (and
taking into consideration the different monitor resolutions) is quite time
consuming. We all develop GoboLinux on our spare time (which is not exactly
abundant), so the reason why I have asked for your help to get directions
to learn how other distros configure the different UI components.

Lucas

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Steve Litt <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 15 May 201=
7 09:34:02 -0300<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5">&quot;Lucas C. Villa Real&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:06 AM, Steve Litt<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">slitt@troubleshooters=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Mon, 15 May 2017 01:05:29 -0300<br>
&gt; &gt; &quot;Lucas C. Villa Real&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lucasvr@gob=
olinux.org">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; After a thorough review of the graphics stack I came up with=
 a new<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; batch of recipes that will fix the problem. The following wi=
ki<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; page contains instructions for those wanting to bring<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; acceleration to their systems:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://github.com/gobolinux/Documentation/wiki/V=
ideo-" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/gobolinux/<w=
br>Documentation/wiki/Video-</a><br>
&gt; &gt; acceleration-with-Modesetting-<wbr>on-016.01<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Let me know if you have any questions.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Yes. Could you please add the following to the Grub menu:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 1) Have the menu actually show up.<br>
&gt; &gt; 2) 20 second wait before running the default grub choice.<br>
&gt; &gt; 3) A grub choice to give a large-print, 80x25 character virtual<b=
r>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 terminal.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The preceding three things will guarantee that a person with<br>
&gt; &gt; under-average vision can at least work within the virtual termina=
l.<br>
&gt; &gt; Then I&#39;d suggest the following:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; * A recipe for vim and gvim, set up with sane fonts so the user c=
an<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0see enough to change them to suit his/her needs.<br>
&gt; &gt; * A recipe for LXDE, with large fonts, so that one with less than=
<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0average vision can actually install what he/she needs=
.<br>
&gt; &gt; * In the MOTD, tell the user how to set the fonts in both Awesome=
<br>
&gt; &gt; and LXDE, hopefully from a config file easily seen in the 80x25 C=
LI<br>
&gt; &gt; mode. In the MOTD, tell how to get startx to point to Awesome, an=
d<br>
&gt; &gt; how to get it to point to LXDE.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The preceding six suggestions are almost trivially simple additio=
ns,<br>
&gt; &gt; that will let those with less than average vision know they&#39;r=
e<br>
&gt; &gt; welcome in the Gobo Linux project.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; SteveT<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; Hi Steve,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; These are good suggestions. If you have any actual commands and<br>
&gt; patches that you&#39;d like to suggest us to incorporate, please let m=
e<br>
&gt; know. We do not revisit things like Grub very often, so that would be<=
br>
&gt; appreciated.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Hi Lucas,<br>
<br>
I counted to ten before responding. About ten weeks, actually. And my<br>
thoughts haven&#39;t changed in that time, so I&#39;m responding now.<br>
<br>
You&#39;re suggesting that *I* develop the grub kernel line to make Gobo<br=
>
legible to the sub 20/20, when I&#39;ve told you repeatedly it takes me 30<=
br>
minutes, each reboot of your live CD, to get it legible enough to<br>
figure out how to grub it. And by the way, I&#39;m no more of a grub expert=
<br>
than you are.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not going to take hours or days to do something that somebody with<=
br>
better vision could do in minutes.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The =
options to include on GoboLinux&#39;s GRUB menu to enhance fonts would be t=
he same as the ones you&#39;d need to include on other distro&#39;s -- so t=
here would be no need for you to use Gobo for that -- checking out which op=
tions your current distro uses would suffice for that matter.</div><div><br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
And now the discussion has turned to KDE/plasma. That pretty much tells<br>
me all I need to know about the project&#39;s priorities and its vision of<=
br>
its community members.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You are wrong. T=
hat only tells that somebody from our community wanted to start a discussio=
n on a different topic, under a different thread. There&#39;s absolutely no=
 change in priorities of the project here.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">
I&#39;ll be glad to help the project, as soon as I can boot the CD and<br>
easily see the error messages, the virtual consoles TT1-TT6, Vim, the<br>
terminals etc, without having to adjust stuff I can&#39;t even see. Till<br=
>
then, I&#39;m not going to try to fit in where I&#39;m obviously not wanted=
.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Question: have you tried to use it on=
 an emulated environment such as QEMU which may give you better screen reso=
lutions? Adjusting the UI stack (and taking into consideration the differen=
t monitor resolutions) is quite time consuming. We all develop GoboLinux on=
 our spare time (which is not exactly abundant), so the reason why I have a=
sked for your help to get directions to learn how other distros configure t=
he different UI components.</div><div></div></div><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra">Lucas</div></div>

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