getfacl doesn't show same output as ls?

I have Linux 2.4.25-pre8 + EA/ACL patches 0.8.65.
I have coreutils with ACL patches from about one year ago, I
can get more specific information here if needed.

I see the following behavior, which I do not understand
after reading acl(5):

         $ getfacl thistestfile
        # file: thistestfile
        # owner: smcdermott
        # group: qdn
        user::rw-
        user:smcdermott:rwx             #effective:rw-
        group::r-x                      #effective:r--
        mask::rw-
        other::r--

         $ ls -l thistestfile
        -rw-rw-r--+   1 smcdermott qdn             0 Jun  7 19:59
        thistestfile

I do not understand why `ls -l' shows ACL_GROUP_OBJ having
the write bit, but the "group::r-x" in getfacl(1) shows it
without? `ls -l' does show the ACL_USER_OBJ, ACL_GROUP_OBJ
and ACL_OTHER permissions, correct? And is not the
"group::r-x" the entry corresponding to the object's group
(in this case group: qdn)?" I'm sure this is something
simple I'm missing, does anyone know what?

Thanks for any help.
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