Re: Re: proposal to change IRC channel to #gentoo-GLI

On Sat, 2005-03-12 at 20:57 -0500, Michael Miller wrote:
> well you guys are not understanding what i am trying to say.... I know
> the idea of open source is that everyone gets to contribute... The
> theory behind my idea, is that a n00b who wants a quick answer is not
> going to apply for membership, wait a day or 2 to get access and then
> go in and ask it. The typical n00b is one that just goes in asks a
> question and leaves... Hell you could even just make a script to let
> em in after 2 days! I realize that open source is meant to be open....
> it still would be.. you'd just need to wait 2 days to get access...

Actually, the idea is that a new person wouldn't get voice ever unless
they were planning on contributing.  #gentoo-installer is not supposed
to be a support channel and the idea is to keep it from turning into
one, not facilitate it.

I'm pretty sure that nobody ever was considering having people "apply"
for voice.

The developers would have voice.  Helpful users would get voice.
Basically, your voice is earned by having valuable and useful opinions
that further the project, developer or not.  Gaining that position is
done via patches submitted and general talk with others already in that
position.

Like I said, it works in #gentoo-releng and I think it could work
perfectly in #gentoo-installer

> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:51:26 -0500, Chris Gianelloni
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 23:16 +0000, Nick Anderson wrote:
> > > Yeh you can have gentoo-gli for users to enter and just have a non
> > > published gentoo-gli-dev setup like releng currently has the chan setup
> > > so you dont get a bunch of people asking stupid questions when trying to
> > > take care of business.
> > 
> > My whole point was that this is not needed and it closes up development
> > discussions from public view.  Why maintain 2 channels for the same
> > thing, especially as #gentoo-installer is not a support channel.  There
> > really is no reason for everyone to "have a voice" in the conversations.
> > 
> > Even in #gentoo-releng, if a user has something to contribute, they get
> > voice to contribute.  It's pretty simple, it keeps conversation on topic
> > (mostly), and it doesn't require setting up a new channel to hide in for
> > the developers.
> > 
> > --
> > Chris Gianelloni
> > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
> > Games - Developer
> > Gentoo Linux
> > 
> > 
> >
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Chris Gianelloni
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