[tlinux-users:08851] Re: Official Linux support (Was: P105-9722 issues..)

--- Thomas Charron <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2008 8:53 AM, bestonnet
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Just get the drivers from nVidia, pretty much every
> > laptop manufacturer has old graphics drivers on their
> > web site.
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>   They will not function without significant user editing
> of the INF files.  The issues with the Video Card fan,
for
> instance, are primarily due to MXM power management being
> present without being advertised by the BIOS.  If you
> attempt to force an install of non vendor supplied
drivers
> (Laptop vendor, not component vendor), you will end up
> with internal temps around 110 C, and very poor
> performance.

OK, that obviously won't work.

For internal temperature to reach 110 =C2=B0C there'd probably
have to be no thermal protection on the GPU, that's a
serious worry there and might be something to complain to
nVidia about.

> > There will probably be some involvement from lawyers
> > and depending on what they are releasing they may have
> > to do an audit to ensure that Toshiba actually does
have
> > the right to release it and if there are sections that
> > are copyrighted by others then they'll need to
negotiate
> > to release them (which would not be guaranteed). That
> > actually will cost Toshiba money.
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>   Negative.  The same BIOS that is utilized by the
> P100/105 laptops is also being utilized by other laptop
> providers.  And technically, this information is already
> advertised 'incorrectly'.  I have a hard time believing
> they would have an issue releasing the 'meant to be
> public' address and register information when it would
> already be redaily available if it was implemented
> correctly.

If it should already be readily available if it were
implemented correctly then they should just go and do that.

> > The 'consumer models' are those in the Satellite and
> > Qosmio series, anything which is based on a Satellite
> > will probably also have a Phoenix BIOS (which means all
> > of the Satellite Pro and some Tecra models).  I'd
expect
> > the Portege and Libreto models to have a Toshiba BIOS.
> >
> > A laptop with a high end video card would be considered
> > very desirable by gamers (who were probably a (the?)
> > major target market for that model).
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>   Toshiba disagrees.  We specifically got these laptops
> after
> reviewing system specifications from the Toshiba business
> pages:
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>
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/laptops.to?coid=3D-26368
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>   Direct from Toshiba:
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> Feature Packed Widescreen
> The Satellite(R) P100/P105 series features
> next-generation Intel(R)
> Centrino(R) Duo Mobile Technology and professional-grade
> graphic chips
> to meet the high demands of multimedia users, creative
> professionals and gamers. There's also robust sound
> through the built-in harman/kardon(R) speakers.

They do mention gamers so gamers were a major market (and I
did put a question on the end of "the").


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