Re: JPackage 6 on RHEL/CentOS 6

Ralph Apel <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.jpackage.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Among other things you seem to be interested in how the goals and
priorities are determined in JPP.
Such steering is certainly not done in some centralized manner.
Everyone of us (few) has his own motivations and procedures.
I may be able to report on what I usually am doing:
- within my work as a consultant, I am faced with Java software which I
  * must deal with
  * might need to deal with
  * would like to deal with
  * etc.
- I then usually do some quick first packaging along our guidelines
which include
  * package any open source build or runtime dependency 
  * patch out or omit non free dependencies as much as possible (e.g.
JAI may not be omitted in e.g. a GIS context)
  * run any unit and/or integration test and solve as much as possible
of the failures or errors
  * do the final build in a mock environment, validating the package
metadata
- from time to time recall the convenience of "releasing" some JPP#,
which (as already said) implies
  * making the release (highly) self contained
  * making it bootstrappable from scratch (i.e. with only the JDK
available)

Certainly this is a highly random environment. But we are volunteers.
Shouldn't we be?

On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 10:57 +0100, Boris Folgmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> [email protected] schrieb/wrote:
> > I built and uploaded Tomcat7 some weeks ago. You have seen it at
> > 6.0/generic/devel/SRPMS/tomcat7-7.0.22-1.jpp6.src.rpm
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > Our intention when putting some package into /devel/ is an invitation to
> > begin using it and report any problems that may arise.
> 
> That is clear. But looking at jpackage.org the overall status of jpp6 is 
> unclear. As is jpp5, since it misses so much updates. The public 
> presentation of JPP needs to be improved. That's why I suggested a Wiki, as 
> this is easier to maintain as a web page. It could also benefit from 
> contributions of ordinary JPP users.
> 
> > That said, I can only stress what David wrote already: On any platform,
> > be it private or at a customer's, I exclude any java stuff from
> > RHEL/CentOS/Fedora repos (except eclipse packages may be).
> 
> I use the yum priorities plug-in for this. See my other post.
> 
> > Btw, JPP-6 has not been released yet. We are working now in order to
> > make it self contained, at least from the run time point of view. After
> > achieving that goal, the build time selfcontainedness is still another
> 
> Who is settings the goals? Where are they documented? Where do developers 
> communicate? I think I checked everything out besides the IRC channel.
> 
> cu,
> 	boris
> 
> 
> 
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