Re: What's going on guys?

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Rex Dieter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>  From
> the recent fedora-list thread, my perception of it was that most people
> seem to be satisfied with how things are progressing, and that there are
> only a few very vocal members of our community who are genuinely unhappy.

I've gone to Ubuntu, so you don't hear me complaining about it here anymore.

My complaint against kde-redhat group was wrong.  The weakness of KDE
4 is certainly not a fault of RedHat/Fedora or Rex D.  I accused
Fedora of trying to subvert KDE by releasing F9 that way, and I was
completely wrong.  KDE 4 is a weakness caused by the KDE team itself,
as far as I can see. KDE had all those cool features in 3.5.8 and then
they disappeared in 4.0. I'm not a developer, but I think it would
have been smarter (more honest) to label KDE 4.0 as KDE 3.9  or
something like that, so distributions would stay away from it.  But
when they labeled it 4.0, the temptation was irresistable.

The F9 also adopted the beta xorg framework, and so adopting the
not-yet-ready KDE was entirely consistent.

Fedora is not alone.  I'm seeing the same complaints about Ubuntu and
SUSE as well. In Ubuntu I'm running Gnome-compiz at the moment, but
I'm eager to see what happens with KDE 4.x.  In the Compiz forums,
there is some excited conversation about the 4.1 edition integratin
Compiz into KDE 4.1.

PJ


>
>> Seems like you guys have enough technical problems to deal with as it
>> is. What are "we" going to do about this?
>
> Some very interested people seem to be unhappy about decision-making,
> but only after-the-fact.  Heck, an analogy I've been tempted to use
> recently is this: sometimes folks who don't vote end up being those who
> complain most about their elected politicians.
>
> fedora/kde is always open to new ideas and (constructive) criticism, so
> my point is that if these folks are genuinely that passionate about kde,
> I'd challenge them to become more involved in the process.
>
> -- Rex
>
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