Re: What's going on guys?

Rex Dieter <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.kde.redhat.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Rex Dieter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>>  From
>> the recent fedora-list thread, my perception of it was that most people
>> seem to be satisfied with how things are progressing, and that there are
>> only a few very vocal members of our community who are genuinely unhappy.
> 
> I've gone to Ubuntu, so you don't hear me complaining about it here anymore.

Ubuntu has kde-4.0 available too, just they went through the much extra 
pain to make it parallel-installable to a kde3 desktop too.

> ... KDE 4 is a weakness caused by the KDE team itself,
> as far as I can see. KDE had all those cool features in 3.5.8 and then
> they disappeared in 4.0. I'm not a developer, but I think it would
> have been smarter (more honest) to label KDE 4.0 as KDE 3.9  or
> something like that, so distributions would stay away from it.  But
> when they labeled it 4.0, the temptation was irresistable.
> 
> The F9 also adopted the beta xorg framework, and so adopting the
> not-yet-ready KDE was entirely consistent.

Thanks for the followup Paul.  True, there's pros/cons that go into 
every decision on when to include these bits in fedora.  It just so 
happens that we don't agree 100% on whether the pros outweigh the cons 
in these cases.  And that's ok. :)  I'm also ok with possibly/someday 
agreeing with you that it wasn't the best decision to include kde-4.0, 
but I don't think I'll ever get there.

warning... another soapbox moment coming on...
Leading the pack wrt free software and innovation, is sometimes a little 
painful.  We've seen that recently in fedora, for example with 
PulseAudio, NetworkManager(0.7, *still* not released), xorg, and now 
kde4.  I'm more than glad to help blaze the path for others to follow.

-- Rex

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