Re: GNOME 49 and SysV systems (possibly affecting other DEs in the future too)

On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 11:16 AM Thomas Seeling <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think for educational purposes the LFS book should constrain itself to
> sysV to demonstrate the purpose of an init system in an understandable
> and simple way.
>
> Since LFS does not *require* systemd it could be moved to BLFS as a
> prerequisite for some DEs.
>
> In fact this could lead to describe other init systems as alternatives
> as well.
> BLFS has instructions for multiple init systems, so it may also show
> systemd, openrc and whatever else is there, with a migration path from
> the LFS sysV way of doing things.
>
> Personally I'm very unhappy with systemd, I don't like it at all. I also
> don't like gnome, but not because of systemd :-)
> systemd started as a way to parallelize the startup services as much as
> possible, but it grew into a monster with more than a million lines of
> code.
> To me it looks like its own ecosystem on top of the Linux kernel, just
> like the saying about Emacs: "nice OS, terrible editor" :-)
>
> Stay healthy,
> Thomas
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how about drop gnome (and kde) with maybe a couple short chapters where to
find support for the official build tools gnome foundry and kde-builder. i
think a main draw of LFS is to be lightweight with icewm or xfce.

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