Re: Hint for deploying LFS-3.3 to a retro PC

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On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 17:03 Aleksandar Kuktin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> >On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:25:19 +0200
> >"Sander van der Burg" ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing
> >List) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > An old distro such as LFS-3.3 should not be used for production
> > purposes, but nonetheless I thought it would be interesting to share
> > the results of my experiment.
>
> Far what it's worth, I'm basically certain any organization that has
> more then a dozen IT employees/members and more then 5 years of
> history has *at least one* ancient piece of software that is in actual
> fact essential to a small but essential process in the organization.
> Ordinarily, these kinds of softwares are run in "sarcophagus"-style
> settings that basically preserve whatever the OS was at the time.
>
> Since this software is used gainfully by the organization, this
> software is "in production", and therefore the ancient OS-es are also
> all "in production". xD Sometimes they're even exposed to Internet!
>
> Think "dBase III application that the University uses for tracking
> cancer patients, in 2011".


Indeed.  A friend of mine wrote his shop floor scheduling software in
Clarion for DOS in the late 1980s, and when that computer=E2=80=99s hardware
started to fail, we tried just loading that old version of MS-DOS on a
newer computer but it didn=E2=80=99t play nice with the power management (f=
ans at
full speed all the time)=E2=80=A6. So for the last 20 years he=E2=80=99s be=
en running a
lean and mean LFS 6.0 or so with DOSEMU.  When we replaced the computer
again, just cloned the drive, made a few tweaks to the kernel config and
recompiled, and he was off to the races.  Not connected to the internet, so
no need to keep it current or patched.
He gets exactly what he wants out of the software and doesn=E2=80=99t have =
to pay a
subscription for some cloud software.


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<div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 17:03 Aleksanda=
r Kuktin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">blfs-de=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-=
left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">&gt;O=
n Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:25:19 +0200<br>
&gt;&quot;Sander van der Burg&quot; (<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
m" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> via blfs-dev Mailing<br>
&gt;List) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; An old distro such as LFS-3.3 should not be used for production<br>
&gt; purposes, but nonetheless I thought it would be interesting to share<b=
r>
&gt; the results of my experiment.<br>
<br>
Far what it&#39;s worth, I&#39;m basically certain any organization that ha=
s<br>
more then a dozen IT employees/members and more then 5 years of<br>
history has *at least one* ancient piece of software that is in actual<br>
fact essential to a small but essential process in the organization.<br>
Ordinarily, these kinds of softwares are run in &quot;sarcophagus&quot;-sty=
le<br>
settings that basically preserve whatever the OS was at the time.<br>
<br>
Since this software is used gainfully by the organization, this<br>
software is &quot;in production&quot;, and therefore the ancient OS-es are =
also<br>
all &quot;in production&quot;. xD Sometimes they&#39;re even exposed to Int=
ernet!<br>
<br>
Think &quot;dBase III application that the University uses for tracking<br>
cancer patients, in 2011&quot;.</blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Indeed.=C2=A0 A friend of mine wrote his shop floor scheduli=
ng software in Clarion for DOS in the late 1980s, and when that computer=E2=
=80=99s hardware started to fail, we tried just loading that old version of=
 MS-DOS on a newer computer but it didn=E2=80=99t play nice with the power =
management (fans at full speed all the time)=E2=80=A6. So for the last 20 y=
ears he=E2=80=99s been running a lean and mean LFS 6.0 or so with DOSEMU.=
=C2=A0 When we replaced the computer again, just cloned the drive, made a f=
ew tweaks to the kernel config and recompiled, and he was off to the races.=
=C2=A0 Not connected to the internet, so no need to keep it current or patc=
hed.</div><div dir=3D"auto">He gets exactly what he wants out of the softwa=
re and doesn=E2=80=99t have to pay a subscription for some cloud software. =
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:so=
lid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" dir=3D"auto"><br>
<br>
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Humans will do just fine.<br>
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