Re: Fwd: Re: grub-customizer

2013/7/30 Jochen Schönfelder <[email protected]>

> Ahoi!
>
> > Throughout this project's history, we've never felt it necessary to have
> > any moderation of the list, which should say something considering that
> > this was waywaywaaaay more active with far more people involved in the
> past.
> Maybe this says sth. I just wonder what it says. And maybe seeing the list
> more
> active again since someone started this behaviour might also say sth.
>
Pfft, main reason for lists having been too silent has been peoples' bad
habits of being overly comfortable with IRC combined with a community that
has shrunked quite a lot. Better awareness of the benefits of not being IRC
exclusive combined with some more people being involved through the QA
teams that's finally gotten organized and active (kudos to people such as
Robert for driving this!:).
Stricter rules are certainly not what to attribute the modest increase of
list activity lately.

>
> > The way that these new rules are imposed by people that's newcomers to
> the
> > project is really sad,
> wrong. these rules could be changed by whoever is active and joins the
> meetings. So even if they were totally created by newcomers without any
> input
> (which they weren't), you still would be wrong.
>
> > especially the utter obliviousness about the
> > incredibly damaging effect this has on the project,
> unclaimed and most possible wrong.

Ehr? "unclaimed"?
Blocking people's participation and contributions is a very bad thing and a
good way to turn productive contributors away, something that's especially
worrying considering the lack of man power we currently have.
Considering the wast amount of work I've invested in this project and the
amount of responsibilities noone else has taken, the inconvenience of this
should be more than obvious enough without me having to go into lengthy
details explaining all of.

So much for meritocracy..

> which has been in a beyond critical state for quite a while..
> You are just claiming things here.
>
???
This should be more than obvious, this is one of the few things that noone
is oblivious about. Do you actually mean to say that this project is in a
healthy state?

>
>
> > People seriously needs to reconsider their ways and the consequences of
> > their actions in stead of being so concerned about their need to control
> > every aspects of the work and communication of others.
> I do not see of which project you are speaking. This does not fit.
>
The slow progress of development, the tension and dissatisfaction amongst
the few contributors who are left are surely something that I'd consider as
consequences that are hard to deny.

> > This is *NO* way to run a free software project.
> which i read as your opinion.
>
Yeah, sure, it cannot be based on my experience and expertize from
involvement in this and related projects for over a decade now..

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Regards,
Per Øyvind