Re: Separate qa mailing list, why?!?!

Per Øyvind Karlsen <[email protected]> Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:46:53 +0200
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2013/8/1 Jeffrey Johnson <[email protected]>

>
> On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Per =D8yvind Karlsen wrote:
>
> > Can anyone provide a sane rationale for why we have a separate QA list?
> >
>
> Sure!
>
> For starters, neither you (nor bero for that matter, I've worked with you
> both) is sufficiently afraid
> of breaking something during a release cycle with emphasis on _LATE_ in a
> release cycle.
>
> A separate QA list is needed to deal with _YOUR_ breakages.
>
And why do you mean that a separate QA list is needed for dealing with any
breakages?
Exactly how will it be of greater benefit to us?
The sane rationale that I requested seems absent to me.


> > It only causes unnecessary fragmentation and worsen communication.
>
> Since when is communication your forte? I can cite references ...
>
Yeah, somehow the amount of performance & social anxiety coming from the
ever growing amount of chronic stress over the past couple of years hasn't
really come to my advantage..

It's not like it's a big secret or anything, my health issues and related
problems to has been brought up by both myself and others in numerous
discussions.

However, individual communication skills isn't really the subject nor
particularly relevant in this context..

>
> > And considering the really low amount of traffic on our mailing lists
> these days, it's a totally and completely overkill.
> >
>
> Considering the delays in the beta -> gamma -> release cycle,
> increased/consolidated
> volume by combining mailing lists (which will surely consume scarce
> resources without
> speeding up a release) is mostly a waste of time.
>
Yeah, sure, considering the wast amount of traffic flooding this list, the
impact of not having yet another mailing list surely will be tremendous..
Uhm, not really..

>
> You did ask the question ... I've merely replied.
>
Yes, thanks for your valuable contribution.

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Regards,
Per =D8yvind

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2013/8/1 Jeffrey Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Per =D8yvind Karlsen wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Can anyone provide a sane rationale for why we have a separate QA list=
?<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Sure!<br>
<br>
For starters, neither you (nor bero for that matter, I&#39;ve worked with y=
ou both) is sufficiently afraid<br>
of breaking something during a release cycle with emphasis on _LATE_ in a r=
elease cycle.<br>
<br>
A separate QA list is needed to deal with _YOUR_ breakages.<br></blockquote=
><div>And why do you mean that a separate QA list is needed for dealing wit=
h any breakages?</div><div>Exactly how will it be of greater benefit to us?=
</div>
<div>The sane rationale that I requested seems absent to me.</div><div><br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; It only causes unnecessary fragmentation and worsen communication.<br>
<br>
</div>Since when is communication your forte? I can cite references ...<br>=
</blockquote><div>Yeah, somehow the amount of performance &amp; social anxi=
ety coming from the ever growing amount of chronic stress over the past cou=
ple of years hasn&#39;t really come to my advantage..</div>
<div><br></div><div>It&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big secret or anything, my=
 health issues and related problems to has been brought up by both myself a=
nd others in numerous discussions.</div><div><br></div><div>However, indivi=
dual communication skills isn&#39;t really the subject nor particularly rel=
evant in this context..</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; And considering the really low amount of traffic on our mailing lists =
these days, it&#39;s a totally and completely overkill.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Considering the delays in the beta -&gt; gamma -&gt; release cycle, i=
ncreased/consolidated<br>
volume by combining mailing lists (which will surely consume scarce resourc=
es without<br>
speeding up a release) is mostly a waste of time.<br></blockquote><div>Yeah=
, sure, considering the wast amount of traffic flooding this list, the impa=
ct of not having yet another mailing list surely will be tremendous..</div>
<div>Uhm, not really..</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
You did ask the question ... I&#39;ve merely replied.<br></blockquote><div>=
Yes, thanks for your valuable contribution.</div><div><br></div><div>--</di=
v><div>Regards,</div><div>Per =D8yvind</div></div>

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