Re: [OM Cooker] Separate qa mailing list, why?!?!

Per Øyvind Karlsen <[email protected]> Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:21:25 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel,gmane.linux.openmandriva.cooker.devel
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2013/8/1 Colin Close <[email protected]>

> I am sure that you understand what  Quality Assurance is about. In order
> to be able to perform that function properly it is necessary  to take an
> impartial and independent stance on all matters relating to quality. Our
> groups purpose is not only to fix bugs and to test

The problem I see here is that fixing bugs and testing releases makes up a
major part of what the cooker mailing list is there for.
With such an overlap, the difficulties of having everyone follow these
discussions about the same things in different places seems to outweight
any benefits to me at least..

releases but to try and encourage the production of standards and
> procedures to be used by those who do work on the distribution so that
> smooth untroubled progress may be made.  In order to maintain our
> impartiality we have a separate mailing for us to communicate on QA polic=
y.

I'm not sure on what kind of impartiality is needed for you to requiring
your own list for it (not excluding the possibility of there being a
specific need for it), could you please explain a bit more on this?
Examples appreciated! :)

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>
> Colin Close
> [email protected]
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Per =D8yvind Karlsen <[email protected]>
> To: Cooker OpenMandriva <[email protected]**>; cooker <
> [email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 9:18 am
> Subject: [OM Cooker] Separate qa mailing list, why?!?!
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> Can anyone provide a sane rationale for why we have a separate QA list?
>
>
> It only causes unnecessary fragmentation and worsen communication.
> And considering the really low amount of traffic on our mailing lists
> these days, it's a totally and completely overkill.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Per =D8yvind
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2013/8/1 Colin Close <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:itchka@compuse=
rve.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I am sure that you understand what =A0Quality Assurance is about. In order =
to be able to perform that function properly it is necessary =A0to take an =
impartial and independent stance on all matters relating to quality. Our gr=
oups purpose is not only to fix bugs and to test </blockquote>
<div>The problem I see here is that fixing bugs and testing releases makes =
up a major part of what the cooker mailing list is there for.</div><div>Wit=
h such an overlap, the difficulties of having everyone follow these discuss=
ions about the same things in different places seems to outweight any benef=
its to me at least..</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">releases but to try and encou=
rage the production of standards and procedures to be used by those who do =
work on the distribution so that smooth untroubled progress may be made. =
=A0In order to maintain our impartiality we have a separate mailing for us =
to communicate on QA policy.</blockquote>
<div>I&#39;m not sure on what kind of impartiality is needed for you to req=
uiring your own list for it (not excluding the possibility of there being a=
 specific need for it), could you please explain a bit more on this?</div>
<div>Examples appreciated! :)</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span cl=
ass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
Colin Close<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">itchka@compuserv=
e.com</a></font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Per =D8yvind Karlsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
To: Cooker OpenMandriva &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><u></u>&gt;; cooker &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&=
gt;<br>

Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 9:18 am<br>
Subject: [OM Cooker] Separate qa mailing list, why?!?!<br>
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Can anyone provide a sane rationale for why we have a separate QA list?<br>
<br>
<br>
It only causes unnecessary fragmentation and worsen communication.<br>
And considering the really low amount of traffic on our mailing lists these=
 days, it&#39;s a totally and completely overkill.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Regards,<br>
Per =D8yvind<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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