Re: About translations

I think is not so dramatically, but now have some problems with
translate. I wrote some week ago what transifex and svn sync is broke
and we have a problem with translation stiatistics. May e transifex
not propetly install (for me is true, becous in transifex.net
statistic works fine), maybe is not a good instruments for us and we
need use svn only or other things. I have similar problms with LXDE
part, where new string appear too and ask about it problem new
managment of Mandriva.

Translators there are a great part of community, but now we have a
needing rewrite rule and build our works for zero point. Funda Wang,
you doing great work for package managment and other people too and
you right. Mandriva is a new.

My approach is not doing panics and try right all. As i knew many
problems will desappear when new BS come. And we need say new Mandriva
company developers, what we want on it!


Chief of educational programs Mandriva Russia (http://edumandriva.ru)
Alexander Kazancev


2011/8/25 Funda Wang <[email protected]>:
> As I said weeks ago, Mandriva the distro is not what we knew. It now only
> provides what the company wants, not what the community and the users wan=
t.
>
> =E5=9C=A8 2011=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=8825=E6=97=A5=E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E5=9B=9B=
=EF=BC=8CYou-Cheng Hsieh <[email protected]> =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=
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>> 2011/8/25 xalba <xalba-w3XhcDFa1aEeIZ0/[email protected]>:
>>> I'm very disappointed too.
>>> I'm a long time Mandriva (Mandrake) translator and this last release
>>> cycle is
>>> the most bizar I have known.
>>>
>>> Sent two emails to the mailing list on june 30, no reply. Sent another
>>> email
>>> on July 28 (subject: Waiting) and had reply asking for more info. I sen=
t
>>> it
>>> but I'm still waiting.
>>>
>>> I think Transifex is a wonderful tool but in my case is causing more
>>> troubles
>>> than solutions, I could had worked better this time only with svn but a=
s
>>> they
>>> are not synchronised I was afraid of simply wasting my time.
>>>
>>> It is a pity, I wanted to contribute but I haven't been able to.
>>>
>>> Az, 2011eko Aburen 24a, 23:01:26-tan Z=C3=A9-(e)k idatzi zuen:
>>>> 2011/8/24 Sergio Rafael Lemke <[email protected]>:
>>>> > I totally agree with statistic in transifex, especially if the
>>>> > http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/et/ is not being synced
>>>> > anymore.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > bedi
>>>> >
>>>> > Em Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:41:19 -0300, Marek Laane <[email protected]>
>>>> > escreveu:
>>>> >> First and most important: I'm really pissed of about translation
>>>> >> management
>>>> >> (or, rather mis/nonmanagement) in this development cycle and
>>>> >> seriously
>>>> >> contemplating to make, after 10 years, Mandriva history for me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> More specifically. Up to today I lived in blessed knowledge that
>>>> >> Estonian translation is totally OK as the only statistics I know of=
 (
>>>> >> http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/et/) showed translatio=
n
>>>> >> at
>>>> >> 100%. Yes, I did know Transifex is in equation, too, but sadly ther=
e
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> no statistics, even not the ML 2011 project which could be used as
>>>> >> reference point, and besides I had perception SVN and Transifex are
>>>> >> synchronized, so I
>>>> >> didn't think Transifex can have updated or new strings which are no=
t
>>>> >> reflected in mentioned statistics page. So, if I saw today,
>>>> >> mandriva-kde-translation has some new strings, I did go to Transife=
x
>>>> >> (it
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> recommended now, not directly committing in SVN, AFAIK). For some
>>>> >> peculiar reason I decided to see other files, too, and was really
>>>> >> shocked to see many
>>>> >> new/updated strings. Nothing about them in mentioned statistics pag=
e,
>>>> >> and even more, nobody mentioned about them to the translators, e.g.
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> cooker-i18n list. Of course, I updated all of them and can now just
>>>> >> hope they make it in ML 2011... But what I really cannot understand=
,
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> why nobody at Mandriva seems to care about translations anymore... =
It
>>>> >> was bad for last release but now I've feeling translators and
>>>> >> translations are absolutely abandoned...
>>>>
>>>> Yes that seams to be the case, i have complained severall times ti the
>>>> guy in charge (at least i thinked it was) and didnt even got any
>>>> answer.
>>>>
>>>> From that point i simply abandoned mandriva portugeuse translation, im
>>>> not gg to particape in a project when im simply ignored.
>>>>
>>>> >> Marek Laane
>>>> >> Estonian translator
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Usando o revolucion=C3=A1rio cliente de e-mail do Opera:
>>>> > http://www.opera.com/mail/
>>>
>>
>> I'll probably quit Mandriva as well, before or after 2011 released.
>>
>> There is a bug that ibus-* modules are not included in LiveDVD, which
>> will cause users need input methods unable to input their local
>> language characters, e.g. Chinese, Japanese, Korean. And Since
>> Mandriva now does not provide any package list in mirror directory, I
>> have to download each ISO to find that if these packages are included.
>> This bug was fixed in RC1 DVD, but Mandriva removed these packages
>> from DVD in RC2, without mentioning it in any announcement, blogpost,
>> mailing list, errata, release note. After I reopened the bug and post
>> in cooker list, someone finally answered that ibus-* modules caused
>> hangs up during build ISO.
>>
>> The problem is, current Mandriva only respond passively, or not
>> respond at all. They made changes but not notify users and
>> contributers until we have to find out that something is changed,
>> added, or removed, quietly. Then we have to ask why/what/when it's
>> been done, sometimes you get answers, sometimes you don't.
>>
>> Before Mandriva 2010.1 and earlier, for each development release, it
>> will be announced in cooker-i18n list. If any new strings added in
>> svn, or be fuzzy-ed, it will also be posted here. For every ISO that
>> released, there were list files that list lang & packages included in
>> DVD/LiveCD.
>>
>> Through contribution I want to improve a distribution that cares about
>> its community, but does Mandriva really care?
>>