Re: [Security Firewall] firewall

On 7/10/05, Pablo de Carlos <[email protected]> wrote:
> I totally agree with you Amaury, but I think that if no one does a free
> iso or a esasy urmpi way to install MNF2 in a Mandriva base system, (or
> an apt MNF for Debian), MNF will fall in a forgotten great product.
> 
> It need a great user base to spread and test it, like linux, (or easy
> install and pirated software ... ¿windows, office? :-P ).
> 
> How many people is going to test the iso downloading it from this list?
> 50, 100?. Thinks Mandriva that MNF2 can grow in market with firewall1,
> cisco, symantec, ca, ipcop, coyote, sonicwall, hand made shorewall
> firewalls, etc, etc, etc ....? (without the key of a growing community
> pushing it up).
> 
> Sorry, but I dont want to waste my time testing a ISO for privileged
> people of a mailing list. I think I'd better go to help shorewall,
> squid, openswan developers to do their great work.

This is an endless discussion :-) 
I would recommend you to support (at least) the above projects (and
will you really ?) but hey, who am I to recommend anything ? :-)

my 2cts,


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> 
> Amaury Amblard-Ladurantie wrote:
> 
> >>I know i'm coming in late and without context to this discussion, but
> >>this seems a very strange sentiment to me.  When you work on free
> >>software, you need to /expect others to make money out of your work/.
> >>
> >>Did Linus Torvalds or Alan Cox get any compensation out of MNF1 for
> >>their work on the Linux kernel?  Did Tom Eastep get paid from MNF1's
> >>coffers for inventing Shorewall?
> >>
> >>If Mandriva has a problem with this, they need to get out of the free
> >>software industry.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Mandriva develops free software (MNF frontend & backend, drakx and so on).
> >However, as Mandriva pays people to develop free software, they need to make
> >money, or they won't be able to pay these developers, and no more free
> >software will be produced by Mandriva, and everyone loses.
> >
> >The solution Mandriva chose consists in restricting the distribution of the
> >Mandriva brand, hence you cannot re-distribute the MNF ISO without paying for
> >it. You are welcome, however, to take all the software found on the ISO, make
> >your own ISO and distribute them freely. It is in many aspects similar to
> >OpenBSD's policy, and I hardly see any conflict with the "free software
> >spirit".
> >
> >Besides, as Deush's last email stated, those who contributed to the MNF will
> >get free access to the MNF ISO if they want. Even if I would prefer the MNF
> >ISO to be freely available to anyone, I don't find Mandriva's politic
> >outrageous.
> >
> >Amaury (former MNF contributor)
> >
> >
> 
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