Re: [Security Firewall] Re: MNF Licence

On 15-Aug-05, at 3:44 AM, Dieter Schütze wrote:

>> Please don't try to pull the "GPL violation" wildcard if you don't
>> understand how the GPL works.
>>
>
> Oh Vincent,
> if i put all the GPL based packages from MNF2.0 on my ftp server that
> all people can download it for free you can do nothing.
> This is what i can do with GPL packages. And if you go on i will do  
> this.

Ok, sure, threaten and bluster all you like.  Why does it always come  
down to threats?

You're right, you can do this and no one can stop you.  That's the  
beauty of the GPL.  But you completely avoided what I wrote and  
you're changing the topic.  We weren't talking about re-distributing  
MNF2.  We were talking about security updates and you were implying  
we were in violation of the GPL by not making updates available to  
everyone.  Why did you cut all of that out and respond to the one thing?

I don't feel like, nor did I intend, to start a fight.  It looks like  
you were out for blood when you started posting.  =(

I responded, explicitly, to your concerns and now you change the  
subject and then start threatening to give it away for free?  Nice.

> Why don't you answer on realy good questions like this from Neil:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> I cannot see how they managed to
> release it with only a few further months of in house testing.
> I would be interested to hear how Mandriva did test this product. What
> methodoloy they used, how many combinations of install etc.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I think many people want to know this.

Because I can't?  Why would I possibly answer something I have no  
ideas about?  Unless you'd like me to fabricate a complete bogus  
response?  Would you like that?  Since when was I involved with MNF,  
even for QA?  I'm not a MNF developer, and I'm certainly not QA.  I  
can't answer this, so why would I try?

> It is also very interesting to see that the secutity discuss Archiv
> stops at 2005-04
>
> Why ?
> There are very interesting postings from you in 2005-05 ;-)

What in the hell does this have to do with the GPL?!?

As for why the archives stop, I have no idea.  The most likely answer  
is sympa sucks, it unsubscribed the archiver robot, and no one  
bothered to say anything when they noticed, so it never got fixed.

I still fail to see how *any* of this has anything to do with  
Mandriva apparently being in violation of the GPL because we're not  
making MNF updates publically available.

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