Re: [Security Firewall] Re: MNF Licence

It is very interessting to see how you change the words.
I never wrote that mandriva do a violation of the GPL
I wrote if !!!
That is a big different.

Is this your kind to answer on critical postings ?
Time to open your eyes.
To answer from you lately wanted some the list to cancel

I can tell you how i see this from outside.
Most testers have the feeling that the message from you are something
like this:
Hey testers, great work but now its time to go for you.
Or for the community and the mandriva club.
Hey thank you for helping in the past hard time, but we don't need it
anymore.

I think postings from you are harmful for mandriva

I hope that I lie completely wrong.

Postings from the security-discuss list has nothing to do with the GPL
but with your manner to answer.

Dieter


Vincent Danen schrieb:
> 
> On 15-Aug-05, at 3:44 AM, Dieter Schütze wrote:
> 
>>> Please don't try to pull the "GPL violation" wildcard if you don't
>>> understand how the GPL works.
>>>
>>
>> Oh Vincent,
>> if i put all the GPL based packages from MNF2.0 on my ftp server that
>> all people can download it for free you can do nothing.
>> This is what i can do with GPL packages. And if you go on i will do 
>> this.
> 
> 
> Ok, sure, threaten and bluster all you like.  Why does it always come 
> down to threats?
> 
> You're right, you can do this and no one can stop you.  That's the 
> beauty of the GPL.  But you completely avoided what I wrote and  you're
> changing the topic.  We weren't talking about re-distributing  MNF2.  We
> were talking about security updates and you were implying  we were in
> violation of the GPL by not making updates available to  everyone.  Why
> did you cut all of that out and respond to the one thing?
> 
> I don't feel like, nor did I intend, to start a fight.  It looks like 
> you were out for blood when you started posting.  =(
> 
> I responded, explicitly, to your concerns and now you change the 
> subject and then start threatening to give it away for free?  Nice.
> 
>> Why don't you answer on realy good questions like this from Neil:
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> I cannot see how they managed to
>> release it with only a few further months of in house testing.
>> I would be interested to hear how Mandriva did test this product. What
>> methodoloy they used, how many combinations of install etc.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I think many people want to know this.
> 
> 
> Because I can't?  Why would I possibly answer something I have no  ideas
> about?  Unless you'd like me to fabricate a complete bogus  response? 
> Would you like that?  Since when was I involved with MNF,  even for QA? 
> I'm not a MNF developer, and I'm certainly not QA.  I  can't answer
> this, so why would I try?
> 
>> It is also very interesting to see that the secutity discuss Archiv
>> stops at 2005-04
>>
>> Why ?
>> There are very interesting postings from you in 2005-05 ;-)
> 
> 
> What in the hell does this have to do with the GPL?!?
> 
> As for why the archives stop, I have no idea.  The most likely answer 
> is sympa sucks, it unsubscribed the archiver robot, and no one  bothered
> to say anything when they noticed, so it never got fixed.
> 
> I still fail to see how *any* of this has anything to do with  Mandriva
> apparently being in violation of the GPL because we're not  making MNF
> updates publically available.
>

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