Re: [Security Firewall] Re: MNF Licence

On 15-Aug-05, at 11:23 AM, Dieter Schütze wrote:

OMG... why do I even bother?

> It is very interessting to see how you change the words.
> I never wrote that mandriva do a violation of the GPL
> I wrote if !!!
> That is a big different.

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/security-firewall/2005-08/msg00105.php

You did write "if", yes, but that doesn't change what you said or  
what it implied.  Why would you even bring it up if you didn't think  
to imply that Mandriva was violating the GPL?

"And for all packages under GPL:
Mandriva must make the SOURCE code available if the code are under  
GPL !!
If not, can get mandriva serious problems.

If i remember mandriva tould us the GPL conformity ;-)"

We're talking about security updates in this thread.  Then you throw  
out something about "packages under GPL" (remember, we're talking  
about security updates so that's obviously what you're referring  
to).  Then you go on to state (and emphasis) making the SOURCE  
available if the code is under the GPL (your words).  So essentially  
you're saying that at the very least the source code for the updates  
must be made available because we ship GPL code (remember, we're  
talking about security updates).  Then you throw in about Mandriva's  
"GPL conformity" to make it sound as though we're two-faced jerks who  
talk GPL conformity out one mouth and violate it with our actions.

Did I misinterpret this wrongly?  That's sure how it came across.   
With all your CAP EMPHASISING and double exclamations's !! it sure  
sounded you like you were trying to make a strong point.

> Is this your kind to answer on critical postings ?
> Time to open your eyes.
> To answer from you lately wanted some the list to cancel

Ummm... what?

> I can tell you how i see this from outside.
> Most testers have the feeling that the message from you are something
> like this:

Messages from me?  I think you need to open your eyes.  How you get  
the following from what *I've* posted is beyond me.

> Hey testers, great work but now its time to go for you.
> Or for the community and the mandriva club.
> Hey thank you for helping in the past hard time, but we don't need it
> anymore.

When have I *ever* said or implied *anything* even partially  
resembling this... dismissal... above?  How about never.

> I think postings from you are harmful for mandriva

You're entitled to your opinion I guess.

> I hope that I lie completely wrong.

I think you do lie completely wrong (hey wait a minute... if you lie  
wrong, does that mean you're telling the truth?  Are you trying to  
trick me)?

Well, I think you lie.  Period.  Or you just don't understand  
anything I've ever written.  That's probably more likely.

> Postings from the security-discuss list has nothing to do with the GPL
> but with your manner to answer.

Good Lord, we were talking about stinking updates and the GPL, not  
with my "manner to answer".

You know what?  From now on I'm keeping my mouth shut.

Thanks, have a great day, and I'm going to find a new list moderator  
now.

Maybe Andreas will take the job.  =)

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