Re: diskless windows philosophical question

On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 15:28, David D. Egts wrote:
> Hi Diego,
> 
> Thanks for the reply!
You didn't answer my first question.
Are you limited to run your application in Windows ?
> 
> > Have you tested your application using a client
> > and RDP or ICA
> > protocols ?
> 
> No, I haven't.  I'm suspecting that putting all the computational and
> graphics workload of about 150 Windows systems on one Windows server
> may be too much for the server.
> 
> > Does your application use 3D graphics ?
> 
> In many instances, yes.  The pilot's view out of the cockpit window is
> often drawn by high end Windows-based graphics PCs.  As such, it would
> be best to do all the computation and graphics on that local box, and
> only reach across the network for application and data files.  I'm
> thinking about using a NAS or a SAN to grab the large files, once the
> diskless clients are booted disklessly.
I was thinking exactly a similar setup. Diskless PXES thin client
accessing SAN resources through iSCSI/FCIP.
But this will run Linux applications only, unless you use
WINE/Crossover.

> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> --- Diego Torres Milano <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If your application runs only in Windows your are
> > somewhat limited.
> > Have you tested your application using a client
> > and RDP or ICA
> > protocols ?
> > Does your application use 3D graphics ?
> > 
> > Diego Torres Milano
> > ----- Mensaje Original -----
> > ASUNTO: [pxes-devel] diskless windows
> > philosophical question
> > DE: [email protected]
> > PARA: [email protected]
> > FECHA: 09-03-2005 11:07
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I'm beginning to work on a project where we have
> > an existing lab of
> > PCs
> > running Windows 2K and XP (and a few running
> > Linux) and would like to
> > eliminate the system drives from them.
> > 
> > These systems run a variety of applications
> > related to real time
> > flight
> > simulation, where timing is important and the
> > applications could
> > require significant compute horsepower.  I presume
> > that this workload
> > is different from the typical diskless thin client
> > deployment where
> > the
> > thin clients are doing lighterweight tasks such as
> > word processing,
> > Internet browsing, etc.
> > 
> > I've seen thin client approaches such as PXES that
> > use the Windows
> > Terminal Services, remote X, etc.  I've also seen
> > approaches from
> > vendors who put a copy of the whole system drive
> > image on a remote
> > server and the diskless client accesses the system
> > files across the
> > network.
> > 
> > >From your experience, which approach would be the
> > most appropriate
> > for
> > this deployment?
> > 
> > Please forgive my ignorance, but with the Windows
> > Terminal Server, do
> > the applications run on the terminal server (where
> > all the thin
> > client
> > does is draw the windows and take mouse and kb
> > input) -- or does the
> > thin client read the executable across the
> > network, do all the
> > program
> > execution locally, and writes output to a shared
> > file system?
> > 
> > My guess is that the former would not work well in
> > my situation.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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