Re: Update related to F123e

A file emacspeak-easy-howto has some useful information in it.  I'll 
search my bookmarks and see if I can locate a link, but a google search 
with file:emacspeak-easy-howto ought to locate it if I don't have it in 
my bookmarks.

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Fernando Botelho wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:16:20
> From: Fernando Botelho <[email protected]>
> To: Peter V?gner <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>     [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Update related to F123e
> 
> Peter, we have now linked to your first post on this topic.
>
> Do you have plans to research the possibility of importing Spacemacs 
> keybindings to Emacs before you memorize too many of those Emacs 
> keybindings?
>
> Fernando
>
>
> On 11/07/2016 07:53 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> It took me a long time to decide but I have attempted to start first 
>> blog post of what I hope will be a series on short tips on emacs 
>> accessibility.
>>
>> For example I am looking into it for about a year sporadically.
>>
>> I like F123E plan but instead of automation I would rather like to do 
>> something that would build on Arch linux philosophy. I am not going to 
>> rewrote the documentation but I would like to try showing some success 
>> stories while handling these things. Most of the articles end with a 
>> message saying something like it has a bit higher learning curve etc 
>> but unfortunatelly very little of them actually showcase how to go 
>> about changing that.
>>
>> Let's see how this attempt will turn out.
>>
>>
>> So far I have got into basic buffer navigation and manipulation 
>> commands, navigating around emacs in general, emacs editing commands, 
>> understood so called easy customizations, got my-self to install and 
>> upgrade packages from elpa / melpa, briefly started playing with org 
>> mode, learned about basic dired file manipulation features, managed to 
>> connect to twitter with twittering-mode. And some invisible issues 
>> along my way such as debugging issues with request.el library and 
>> curl, getting epg working with gpg.
>>
>> These are things I hope I have learned enough so I can comfortably use 
>> them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Next on my todo list are knowing speechd-el better, emacs packages 
>> such as matrix-client for inovative instant messaging and more, jabber 
>> for classic messaging, gnus for email, sauron for integrated 
>> notifications.
>>
>>
>> This is my initial plan and these are things I wish to eventually 
>> cover later.
>>
>>
>> My first article just talks about installing and running emacs for the 
>> first time.
>>
>>
>> https://pvagner.tk/2016/emacs-a11y-tip-1-introduction-and-how-to-install
>>
>>
>> Of course if you have ideas, comments, anything feel free to post.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and greetings
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06.11.2016 at 18:17 Fernando Botelho wrote:
>>> Thanks to those who have sent feedback to my emails to various lists.
>>>
>>> So far this is what I have found out:
>>>
>>> A lot of people are in agreement regarding the need for:
>>>
>>> * An easier way to install and setup Emacspeak;
>>> * An easier way for Emacspeak to use eSpeak and/or other 
>>> synthesizers; and
>>> * At least one expert also mentioned that Spacemacs does not solve 
>>> all issues, as it has some inaccessible output.
>>>
>>> However, it has been said that:
>>>
>>> * SpeechD-el can make Emacs accessible;
>>> * SpeechD-el already works well with Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak;
>>> * SpeechD-el is already easier to install and is multilingual by 
>>> default;
>>> * SpeechD-el could even be used to bridge communication between 
>>> Emacspeak and Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak; and
>>> * it might be easier to just bring Spacemacs keybindings to classic 
>>> Emacs rather than move all of the SpeechD-el or Emacspeak 
>>> accessibility to Spacemacs.
>>>
>>> I have updated our project document accordingly:
>>> https://public.f123.org/experimental/About-F123e.html
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Fernando
>>>
>>>
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>>
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