Re: Update related to F123e

I thought it was a one-time thing. It wasn't clear in your original 
message that it happens every time. I'll fix it.




On 11/07/2016 05:35 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> A file emacspeak-easy-howto has some useful information in it.  I'll 
> search my bookmarks and see if I can locate a link, but a google 
> search with file:emacspeak-easy-howto ought to locate it if I don't 
> have it in my bookmarks.
>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Fernando Botelho wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:16:20
>> From: Fernando Botelho <[email protected]>
>> To: Peter V?gner <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>>     [email protected], [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Update related to F123e
>>
>> Peter, we have now linked to your first post on this topic.
>>
>> Do you have plans to research the possibility of importing Spacemacs 
>> keybindings to Emacs before you memorize too many of those Emacs 
>> keybindings?
>>
>> Fernando
>>
>>
>> On 11/07/2016 07:53 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> It took me a long time to decide but I have attempted to start first 
>>> blog post of what I hope will be a series on short tips on emacs 
>>> accessibility.
>>>
>>> For example I am looking into it for about a year sporadically.
>>>
>>> I like F123E plan but instead of automation I would rather like to 
>>> do something that would build on Arch linux philosophy. I am not 
>>> going to rewrote the documentation but I would like to try showing 
>>> some success stories while handling these things. Most of the 
>>> articles end with a message saying something like it has a bit 
>>> higher learning curve etc but unfortunatelly very little of them 
>>> actually showcase how to go about changing that.
>>>
>>> Let's see how this attempt will turn out.
>>>
>>>
>>> So far I have got into basic buffer navigation and manipulation 
>>> commands, navigating around emacs in general, emacs editing 
>>> commands, understood so called easy customizations, got my-self to 
>>> install and upgrade packages from elpa / melpa, briefly started 
>>> playing with org mode, learned about basic dired file manipulation 
>>> features, managed to connect to twitter with twittering-mode. And 
>>> some invisible issues along my way such as debugging issues with 
>>> request.el library and curl, getting epg working with gpg.
>>>
>>> These are things I hope I have learned enough so I can comfortably 
>>> use them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Next on my todo list are knowing speechd-el better, emacs packages 
>>> such as matrix-client for inovative instant messaging and more, 
>>> jabber for classic messaging, gnus for email, sauron for integrated 
>>> notifications.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is my initial plan and these are things I wish to eventually 
>>> cover later.
>>>
>>>
>>> My first article just talks about installing and running emacs for 
>>> the first time.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://pvagner.tk/2016/emacs-a11y-tip-1-introduction-and-how-to-install 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course if you have ideas, comments, anything feel free to post.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and greetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06.11.2016 at 18:17 Fernando Botelho wrote:
>>>> Thanks to those who have sent feedback to my emails to various lists.
>>>>
>>>> So far this is what I have found out:
>>>>
>>>> A lot of people are in agreement regarding the need for:
>>>>
>>>> * An easier way to install and setup Emacspeak;
>>>> * An easier way for Emacspeak to use eSpeak and/or other 
>>>> synthesizers; and
>>>> * At least one expert also mentioned that Spacemacs does not solve 
>>>> all issues, as it has some inaccessible output.
>>>>
>>>> However, it has been said that:
>>>>
>>>> * SpeechD-el can make Emacs accessible;
>>>> * SpeechD-el already works well with Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak;
>>>> * SpeechD-el is already easier to install and is multilingual by 
>>>> default;
>>>> * SpeechD-el could even be used to bridge communication between 
>>>> Emacspeak and Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak; and
>>>> * it might be easier to just bring Spacemacs keybindings to classic 
>>>> Emacs rather than move all of the SpeechD-el or Emacspeak 
>>>> accessibility to Spacemacs.
>>>>
>>>> I have updated our project document accordingly:
>>>> https://public.f123.org/experimental/About-F123e.html
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Fernando
>>>>
>>>>
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