Fedora Workstation Working Group Meeting Notes, 12 May
Nieves Montero Fernandez via desktop <[email protected]> Tue, 12 May 2026 17:51:08 +0200
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--===============5504415405133791540== Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="000000000000921d380651a0d576" --000000000000921d380651a0d576 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000921d380651a0d575" --000000000000921d380651a0d575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attendees - Allan - Chris - Jens - Lee Thomas - Michael - Nieves - Tomas Summary Meeting discussions addressed Fedora package management, Bugzilla workflow improvements and GNOME desktop configuration standards. Package Management and Thumbnailers The team decided to implement a "Provides" entry for GStreamer thumbnailers to replace the outdated Totem-video-thumbnailer package. This ensures system cleanliness and proper package updates. Bugzilla Workflow and Assignees Participants agreed to adopt Bugzilla templates for upstream reporting while retaining autoresponders for component shifts. They resolved to proceed with default assignee plans if approvals remain pending. Installation and Software Maintenance The group prioritized streamlining initial setup for language and keyboard layouts while agreeing to downgrade Shotwell due to unstable upstream releases. Next steps - [image: unchecked] [Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela] Create Meeting: Create a new meeting event usin= g a new meeting ID. Update the meeting invitation and agenda with the new link. - [image: unchecked] [Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela] Send Announcement: Send an announcement email r= egarding the new meeting details to the Fedora desktop list. - [image: unchecked] [Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela] Redirect Attendees: Join the old meeting during= its first occurrence. Move attending people to the newly created meeting. - [image: unchecked] [Michael Catanzaro] Coordinate Bugzilla: Talk to Brendan about Bugzilla rule maintenance and necessary changes. Sort out permissions needed for managing the autoresponder rule. - [image: unchecked] [Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela] Check Web UI: Ask Alexandra for web UI document= ation. Verify if the web UI honors initial setup settings, like the previous installer did. Details #topic totem-video-thumbnailer not removed on upgrade to Fedora 44 #link https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/513 - Resolution of Gemini Meeting ID Conflict: The current "Gemini" meeting event requires creating a new meeting with a new ID and link to resolve = the conflict. Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela plans to send an announcement email to = the Fedora desktop list later this week and will update the link in the agenda and meeting invitation. They will also join the old meeting for the first occurrence of the new one to redirect attendees. - Totem Video Thumbnailer Upgrade Issue: The meeting discussed an issue regarding the `totem-video-thumbnailer` package not being removed during the upgrade to Fedora 44, despite the plan to replace it with `GST thumbnailers`. The retention of the older package might cause confusion, and a bug report has been opened about this issue. Michael Catanzaro suggested a "foolproof solution" would be to have `Gstream thumbnailers` provide the `totem-video-thumbnailer` package, even though this is not technically accurate. - Functionality of Thumbnailers and Orphaned Packages: The functional difference between the GStreamer and Totem thumbnailers is that they produce thumbnails at slightly different points in the video, often off = by a second or two. The GStreamer version is preferred because it is what upstream uses, and Totem is basically unmaintained. Additionally, the to= pic of orphaning packages was raised, noting that `Glo` and `Glo plugins` wi= ll be orphaned soon, which will impact packages like `Rhythmbox-glo-music` = and `totem`, due to the maintainer's inactive email address. - Proposed Solution for Thumbnailer Conflict: Since the GStreamer thumbnailer is the desired default and users are unlikely to notice a change in functionality, the only viable solution identified is to implement a `provides` entry, which would require synchronization with t= he `totem-thumbnailer` package. This approach is intended to ensure system cleanliness and ensure users receive the GStreamer package. *#topic Red Hat Bugzilla: GNOME packages are in bad shape #link https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/131 <https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/131> #link https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/475 <https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/475> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2467742 <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2467742>* - Bugzilla Autoresponder and Template Discussion: The group discussed the request from Fesco to update the text of the autoresponder rule concerni= ng non-GNOME packages being in "bad shape," which has already been altered. Fesco suggested exploring the idea of using a Bugzilla template to promp= t users to report issues in the upstream tracker instead of downstream. Th= e current concern is that the autoresponder might still be necessary for issues moved between components, as the template is only presented when = a bug is initially created. - Maintenance of Bugzilla Rules and Templates: Maintaining both the Bugzilla rule and the templates requires permissions within the Fedora P= M Bugzilla group, which neither Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela nor Michael Catanza= ro currently possess. Michael Catanzaro noted the importance of discouraging users fr= om reporting issues in the wrong place initially, and keeping the autoresponder for issues moved between components. Michael Catanzaro intends to talk to Brendan Konoboy to sort out the rule and template maintenance. - Default Bug Assignees and Process: Michael Catanzaro stated that if a human is not reading bug reports, the assignee should be the SIG, and th= ey want to finish the plan to set default assignees. The current process involves pinging people for approval, but Michael Catanzaro suggested th= ey could proceed faster by making the change if people do not respond. - Future of Bugzilla and Fedora: Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela mentioned that the= re appears to be confusion regarding the future of Bugzilla and Fedora, noting that= a project about its future was moved to another person, and they are await= ing a new contact for an update. The group agreed to implement the template, keep the autoresponder for moved issues, and be more aggressive about finishing the default assignee plan. *#topic gnome-initial-setup, language and keyboard layout choice #link https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/512 <https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/512>* - GNOME Initial Setup Language and Keyboard Layout Choice: The discussion addressed an issue raised in Silverblue regarding duplication in the initial setup for language and keyboard layout, leading to an idea about supporting OEM installations. Allan Day noted that the issue applies to = a broader set of use cases beyond just OEM installs, such as a family memb= er or support department installing the OS for a user. - Actionable Steps for Initial Setup Issue: Michael Catanzaro indicated they need to discuss the issue with the Anaconda developers to ensure agreement between GNOME initial setup and Anaconda, particularly for skipping language and keyboard layout in Anaconda. Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popel= a committed to checking with Alexandra to confirm whether the web UI honors the same configuration settings as the old UI for skipping steps. The consensus w= as that installing the system in one language (e.g., English) and allowing = the end user to pick their language later is a valid use case. - Shotwell Downgrade Proposal: Michael Catanzaro proposed downgrading Shotwell, adding an epoch that will last forever, and possibly orphaning the package due to issues with version 0.33 alpha being broken. Upstream maintainers have also requested the downgrade to the stable version. Tom= =C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela agreed with the idea of potentially removing the package from the GNOME SIG package set because the upstream maintainer is not following standard release conventions, which could cause recurring maintenance issues. --000000000000921d380651a0d575 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><h3 dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.8;= margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-se= rif;color:rgb(31,31,31);background-color:transparent;font-weight:500;font-v= ariant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font size=3D"2= ">Attendees</font></span></h3><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;marg= in-top:0pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;= color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertic= al-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">- Allan</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" st= yle=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style=3D"fo= nt-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparen= t;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">- Chris= </span></p><p style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><= span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-= color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:p= re-wrap">- Jens</span></p><p style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margi= n-bottom:4pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,= 48);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baselin= e;white-space:pre-wrap">- Lee Thomas</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line= -height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style=3D"font-family:R= oboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-vari= ant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">- Michael</span></= p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:4pt= "><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);backgrou= nd-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-spac= e:pre-wrap">- Nieves</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;mar= gin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif= ;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;verti= cal-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">- Tomas</span></p><h3 dir=3D"ltr" = style=3D"line-height:1.8;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt"><span style=3D"f= ont-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,31,31);background-color:transpare= nt;font-weight:500;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:no= ne;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font size=3D"2">Summary</= font></span></h3><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;ma= rgin-bottom:4pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,= 48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-= variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre= -wrap">Meeting discussions addressed Fedora package management, Bugzilla wo= rkflow improvements and GNOME desktop configuration standards.</span><span = style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color= :transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-dec= oration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span= style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-colo= r:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-de= coration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><spa= n style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-col= or:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-d= ecoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Package Manage= ment and Thumbnailers</span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;co= lor:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:n= ormal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;whit= e-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;c= olor:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:= normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;whi= te-space:pre-wrap">The team decided to implement a "Provides" ent= ry for GStreamer thumbnailers to replace the outdated Totem-video-thumbnail= er package. This ensures system cleanliness and proper package updates.</sp= an><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);backgro= und-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal= ;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></s= pan><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);backgr= ound-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:norma= l;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></= span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);backg= round-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:norm= al;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bugzi= lla Workflow and Assignees</span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-ser= if;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-st= yle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline= ;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-se= rif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-s= tyle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baselin= e;white-space:pre-wrap">Participants agreed to adopt Bugzilla templates for= upstream reporting while retaining autoresponders for component shifts. Th= ey resolved to proceed with default assignee plans if approvals remain pend= ing.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48)= ;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-varian= t:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"= ><br></span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48= );background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-varia= nt:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap= "><br></span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,4= 8);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-vari= ant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wra= p">Installation and Software Maintenance</span><span style=3D"font-family:R= oboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weig= ht:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-= align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style=3D"font-family:= Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-wei= ght:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical= -align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The group prioritized streamlining in= itial setup for language and keyboard layouts while agreeing to downgrade S= hotwell due to unstable upstream releases.</span></p><h3 dir=3D"ltr" style= =3D"line-height:1.8;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt"><span style=3D"font-f= amily:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,31,31);background-color:transparent;fo= nt-weight:500;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;ve= rtical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font size=3D"2">Next steps</fo= nt></span></h3><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir=3D"lt= r" role=3D"checkbox" aria-checked=3D"false" style=3D"list-style-type:none;f= ont-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;f= ont-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;v= ertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><img src=3D"cid:ii_mp2sk76b0" alt= =3D"unchecked" width=3D"18" height=3D"18"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-heig= ht:1.38;margin-bottom:4pt;display:inline-block;vertical-align:top;margin-to= p:0px" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;c= olor:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:= normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;whi= te-space:pre-wrap">[Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela] Create Meeting: Create a new me= eting event using a new meeting ID. Update the meeting invitation and agend= a with the new link.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"checkbox" aria-= checked=3D"false" style=3D"list-style-type:none;font-family:Arial,sans-seri= f;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:= normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;whi= te-space:pre"><img src=3D"cid:ii_mp2sk76d1" alt=3D"unchecked" width=3D"18" = height=3D"18"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-bottom:4pt;di= splay:inline-block;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px" role=3D"presentation"= ><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);backgroun= d-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;t= ext-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[Tom=C3= =A1=C5=A1 Popela] Send Announcement: Send an announcement email regarding t= he new meeting details to the Fedora desktop list.</span></p></li><li dir= =3D"ltr" role=3D"checkbox" aria-checked=3D"false" style=3D"list-style-type:= none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transpa= rent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:= none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><img src=3D"cid:ii_mp2sk76e2"= alt=3D"unchecked" width=3D"18" height=3D"18"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-= height:1.38;margin-bottom:4pt;display:inline-block;vertical-align:top;margi= n-top:0px" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-ser= if;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-st= yle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline= ;white-space:pre-wrap">[Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela] Redirect Attendees: Join th= e old meeting during its first occurrence. Move attending people to the new= ly created meeting.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"checkbox" aria-c= hecked=3D"false" style=3D"list-style-type:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif= ;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:n= ormal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;whit= e-space:pre"><img src=3D"cid:ii_mp2sk76f3" alt=3D"unchecked" width=3D"18" h= eight=3D"18"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-bottom:4pt;dis= play:inline-block;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px" role=3D"presentation">= <span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background= -color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;te= xt-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[Michael C= atanzaro] Coordinate Bugzilla: Talk to Brendan about Bugzilla rule maintena= nce and necessary changes. Sort out permissions needed for managing the aut= oresponder rule.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"checkbox" aria-chec= ked=3D"false" style=3D"list-style-type:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:norm= al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-s= pace:pre"><img src=3D"cid:ii_mp2sk76g4" alt=3D"unchecked" width=3D"18" heig= ht=3D"18"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-bottom:4pt;displa= y:inline-block;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px" role=3D"presentation"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-co= lor:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-= decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[Tom=C3=A1=C5= =A1 Popela] Check Web UI: Ask Alexandra for web UI documentation. Verify if= the web UI honors initial setup settings, like the previous installer did.= </span></p></li></ul><h3 dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.8;margin-top:0p= t;margin-bottom:8pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb= (31,31,31);background-color:transparent;font-weight:500;font-style:normal;f= ont-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space= :pre-wrap"><font size=3D"2">Details</font></span></h3><div><span style=3D"f= ont-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,31,31);background-color:transpare= nt;font-weight:500;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:no= ne;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style=3D"color:rgb(3= 3,37,41);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",= Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,&q= uot;Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbo= l","Noto Color Emoji";font-size:14px">#topic totem-video-thu= mbnailer not removed on upgrade to Fedora 44 #link </span><a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets= /issues/513" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(0,136,204);font-family:-a= pple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica = Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&q= uot;,"Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Colo= r Emoji";font-size:14px;background-color:transparent;box-sizing:border= -box;text-decoration:none">https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tick= ets/issues/513</a><font size=3D"2"></font></span></div><p style=3D"box-sizi= ng:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:1rem;white-space:pre-wrap;color:= rgb(33,37,41);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI&q= uot;,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-ser= if,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI = Symbol","Noto Color Emoji""></p><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;= margin-bottom:0px"><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-famil= y:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weigh= t:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-a= lign:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;mar= gin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-fa= mily:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;fon= t-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;ver= tical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Resolution of Gemini Meeting ID = Conflict</span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48= ,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-va= riant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-w= rap">: The current "Gemini" meeting event requires creating a new= meeting with a new ID and link to resolve the conflict. Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Po= pela plans to send an announcement email to the Fedora desktop list later t= his week and will update the link in the agenda and meeting invitation. The= y will also join the old meeting for the first occurrence of the new one to= redirect attendees.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-typ= e:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:trans= parent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoratio= n:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"lin= e-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" role=3D"presentation"><span= style=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;white-space:pre-= wrap;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);font-weight:700;vert= ical-align:baseline">Totem Video Thumbnailer Upgrade Issue</span><span styl= e=3D"background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;= font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);vertical-align:baseline">= : The meeting discussed an issue regarding the `totem-video-thumbnailer` pa= ckage not being removed during the upgrade to Fedora 44, despite the plan t= o replace it with `GST thumbnailers`. The retention of the older package mi= ght cause confusion, and a bug report has been opened about this issue. Mic= hael Catanzaro suggested a "foolproof solution" would be to have = `Gstream thumbnailers` provide the `totem-video-thumbnailer` package, even = though this is not technically accurate.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" sty= le=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);ba= ckground-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:n= ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir= =3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" role= =3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48= ,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font= -variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pr= e-wrap">Functionality of Thumbnailers and Orphaned Packages</span><span sty= le=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:tr= ansparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decora= tion:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: The functional di= fference between the GStreamer and Totem thumbnailers is that they produce = thumbnails at slightly different points in the video, often off by a second= or two. The GStreamer version is preferred because it is what upstream use= s, and Totem is basically unmaintained. Additionally, the topic of orphanin= g packages was raised, noting that `Glo` and `Glo plugins` will be orphaned= soon, which will impact packages like `Rhythmbox-glo-music` and `totem`, d= ue to the maintainer's inactive email address.</span></p></li><li dir= =3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:r= gb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;fo= nt-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:= pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:= 8pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;col= or:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:no= rmal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white= -space:pre-wrap">Proposed Solution for Thumbnailer Conflict</span><span sty= le=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:tr= ansparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decora= tion:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: Since the GStream= er thumbnailer is the desired default and users are unlikely to notice a ch= ange in functionality, the only viable solution identified is to implement = a `provides` entry, which would require synchronization with the `totem-thu= mbnailer` package. This approach is intended to ensure system cleanliness a= nd ensure users receive the GStreamer package.</span></p></li></ul><b><span= style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,= "Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto San= s",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji"= ,"Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";font-size:14px;wh= ite-space:pre-wrap">#topic Red Hat Bugzilla: GNOME packages are in bad shap= e #link </span><a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets= /issues/131" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(0,136,204);font-family:-a= pple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica = Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&q= uot;,"Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Colo= r Emoji";font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transpar= ent;box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration:none">https://forge.fedoraproject= .org/workstation/tickets/issues/131</a><span style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);f= ont-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,&qu= ot;Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple = Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol",&q= uot;Noto Color Emoji";font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"> #link </span><a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets= /issues/475" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(0,136,204);font-family:-a= pple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica = Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&q= uot;,"Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Colo= r Emoji";font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transpar= ent;box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration:none">https://forge.fedoraproject= .org/workstation/tickets/issues/475</a><span style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);f= ont-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,&qu= ot;Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple = Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol",&q= uot;Noto Color Emoji";font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"> #link </span><a href=3D"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D24677= 42" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(0,136,204);font-family:-apple-syst= em,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue"= ;,Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji",&quo= t;Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji&q= uot;;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;box-s= izing:border-box;text-decoration:none">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug= .cgi?id=3D2467742</a></b></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b style=3D""><br></b><ul s= tyle=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-sty= le-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color= :transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-dec= oration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style= =3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" role=3D"presentation= "><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);backgrou= nd-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;= text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bugzilla= Autoresponder and Template Discussion</span><span style=3D"font-family:Rob= oto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight= :400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-al= ign:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: The group discussed the request from F= esco to update the text of the autoresponder rule concerning non-GNOME pack= ages being in "bad shape," which has already been altered. Fesco = suggested exploring the idea of using a Bugzilla template to prompt users t= o report issues in the upstream tracker instead of downstream. The current = concern is that the autoresponder might still be necessary for issues moved= between components, as the template is only presented when a bug is initia= lly created.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;f= ont-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;f= ont-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;v= ertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height= :1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style= =3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:tran= sparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decorati= on:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Maintenance of Bugzil= la Rules and Templates</span><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;c= olor:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:= normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;whi= te-space:pre-wrap">: Maintaining both the Bugzilla rule and the templates r= equires permissions within the Fedora PM Bugzilla group, which neither Tom= =C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela nor Michael Catanzaro currently possess. Michael Catanz= aro noted the importance of discouraging users from reporting issues in the= wrong place initially, and keeping the autoresponder for issues moved betw= een components. Michael Catanzaro intends to talk to Brendan Konoboy to sor= t out the rule and template maintenance.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" sty= le=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);ba= ckground-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:n= ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir= =3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" role= =3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48= ,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font= -variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pr= e-wrap">Default Bug Assignees and Process</span><span style=3D"font-family:= Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-wei= ght:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical= -align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: Michael Catanzaro stated that if a = human is not reading bug reports, the assignee should be the SIG, and they = want to finish the plan to set default assignees. The current process invol= ves pinging people for approval, but Michael Catanzaro suggested they could= proceed faster by making the change if people do not respond.</span></p></= li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-ser= if;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style= :normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;wh= ite-space:pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;marg= in-bottom:8pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans= -serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;fon= t-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:base= line;white-space:pre-wrap">Future of Bugzilla and Fedora</span><span style= =3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:tran= sparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decorati= on:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Pop= ela mentioned that there appears to be confusion regarding the future of Bu= gzilla and Fedora, noting that a project about its future was moved to anot= her person, and they are awaiting a new contact for an update. The group ag= reed to implement the template, keep the autoresponder for moved issues, an= d be more aggressive about finishing the default assignee plan.</span></p><= /li></ul><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:-apple-system,Bl= inkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Ari= al,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Seg= oe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";= font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">#topic gnome-initial-setup, language a= nd keyboard layout choice #link </span><a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets= /issues/512" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(0,136,204);font-family:-a= pple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica = Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&q= uot;,"Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Colo= r Emoji";font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transpar= ent;box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration:none">https://forge.fedoraproject= .org/workstation/tickets/issues/512</a></b></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b style= =3D""><br></b><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir=3D"ltr= " style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,= 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-vari= ant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p= dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" ro= le=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(= 48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;fo= nt-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:= pre-wrap">GNOME Initial Setup Language and Keyboard Layout Choice</span><sp= an style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-co= lor:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-= decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: The discuss= ion addressed an issue raised in Silverblue regarding duplication in the in= itial setup for language and keyboard layout, leading to an idea about supp= orting OEM installations. Allan Day noted that the issue applies to a broad= er set of use cases beyond just OEM installs, such as a family member or su= pport department installing the OS for a user.</span></p></li><li dir=3D"lt= r" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0= ,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-var= iant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><= p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt" r= ole=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb= (48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;f= ont-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space= :pre-wrap">Actionable Steps for Initial Setup Issue</span><span style=3D"fo= nt-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparen= t;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:non= e;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: Michael Catanzaro indicat= ed they need to discuss the issue with the Anaconda developers to ensure ag= reement between GNOME initial setup and Anaconda, particularly for skipping= language and keyboard layout in Anaconda. Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela committed= to checking with Alexandra to confirm whether the web UI honors the same c= onfiguration settings as the old UI for skipping steps. The consensus was t= hat installing the system in one language (e.g., English) and allowing the = end user to pick their language later is a valid use case.</span></p></li><= li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;c= olor:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:nor= mal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-= space:pre"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-b= ottom:8pt" role=3D"presentation"><span style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-ser= if;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-st= yle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline= ;white-space:pre-wrap">Shotwell Downgrade Proposal</span><span style=3D"fon= t-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(48,48,48);background-color:transparent= ;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none= ;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: Michael Catanzaro proposed= downgrading Shotwell, adding an epoch that will last forever, and possibly= orphaning the package due to issues with version 0.33 alpha being broken. = Upstream maintainers have also requested the downgrade to the stable versio= n. Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Popela agreed with the idea of potentially removing the = package from the GNOME SIG package set because the upstream maintainer is n= ot following standard release conventions, which could cause recurring main= tenance issues.</span></p></li></ul></div> </div> --000000000000921d380651a0d575-- --000000000000921d380651a0d576 Content-Type: image/png; name="image.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <ii_mp2sk76f3> X-Attachment-Id: ii_mp2sk76f3 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEgAAABICAYAAABV7bNHAAAA1ElEQVR4Ae3bMQ4BURSFYY2xBuwQ 7BIkTGxFRj9Oo9RdkXn5TvL3L19u+2ZmZmZmZhVbpH26pFcaJ9IrndMudb/CWadHGiden1bll9MI zqd79SUd0thY20qga4NA50qgoUGgoRJo/NL/V/N+QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAg QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIEyFeEZyXQpUGgUyXQrkGgTSVQl/qGcG5pnkq3Sn0jOMv0 k3Vpm05pmNjfsGPalFyOmZmZmdkbSS9cKbtzhxMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --000000000000921d380651a0d576 Content-Type: image/png; name="image.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <ii_mp2sk76g4> X-Attachment-Id: ii_mp2sk76g4 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEgAAABICAYAAABV7bNHAAAA1ElEQVR4Ae3bMQ4BURSFYY2xBuwQ 7BIkTGxFRj9Oo9RdkXn5TvL3L19u+2ZmZmZmZhVbpH26pFcaJ9IrndMudb/CWadHGiden1bll9MI zqd79SUd0thY20qga4NA50qgoUGgoRJo/NL/V/N+QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAg QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIEyFeEZyXQpUGgUyXQrkGgTSVQl/qGcG5pnkq3Sn0jOMv0 k3Vpm05pmNjfsGPalFyOmZmZmdkbSS9cKbtzhxMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --000000000000921d380651a0d576 Content-Type: image/png; name="image.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <ii_mp2sk76d1> X-Attachment-Id: ii_mp2sk76d1 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEgAAABICAYAAABV7bNHAAAA1ElEQVR4Ae3bMQ4BURSFYY2xBuwQ 7BIkTGxFRj9Oo9RdkXn5TvL3L19u+2ZmZmZmZhVbpH26pFcaJ9IrndMudb/CWadHGiden1bll9MI zqd79SUd0thY20qga4NA50qgoUGgoRJo/NL/V/N+QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAg QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIEyFeEZyXQpUGgUyXQrkGgTSVQl/qGcG5pnkq3Sn0jOMv0 k3Vpm05pmNjfsGPalFyOmZmZmdkbSS9cKbtzhxMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --000000000000921d380651a0d576 Content-Type: image/png; name="image.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <ii_mp2sk76b0> X-Attachment-Id: ii_mp2sk76b0 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEgAAABICAYAAABV7bNHAAAA1ElEQVR4Ae3bMQ4BURSFYY2xBuwQ 7BIkTGxFRj9Oo9RdkXn5TvL3L19u+2ZmZmZmZhVbpH26pFcaJ9IrndMudb/CWadHGiden1bll9MI zqd79SUd0thY20qga4NA50qgoUGgoRJo/NL/V/N+QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAg QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIEyFeEZyXQpUGgUyXQrkGgTSVQl/qGcG5pnkq3Sn0jOMv0 k3Vpm05pmNjfsGPalFyOmZmZmdkbSS9cKbtzhxMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --000000000000921d380651a0d576 Content-Type: image/png; name="image.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <ii_mp2sk76e2> X-Attachment-Id: ii_mp2sk76e2 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEgAAABICAYAAABV7bNHAAAA1ElEQVR4Ae3bMQ4BURSFYY2xBuwQ 7BIkTGxFRj9Oo9RdkXn5TvL3L19u+2ZmZmZmZhVbpH26pFcaJ9IrndMudb/CWadHGiden1bll9MI zqd79SUd0thY20qga4NA50qgoUGgoRJo/NL/V/N+QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAg QIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIECBAgQIAAAQIEyFeEZyXQpUGgUyXQrkGgTSVQl/qGcG5pnkq3Sn0jOMv0 k3Vpm05pmNjfsGPalFyOmZmZmdkbSS9cKbtzhxMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --000000000000921d380651a0d576-- --===============5504415405133791540== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline LS0gCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCmRlc2t0 b3AgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IC0tIGRlc2t0b3BAbGlzdHMuZmVkb3JhcHJvamVjdC5vcmcKVG8gdW5z dWJzY3JpYmUgc2VuZCBhbiBlbWFpbCB0byBkZXNrdG9wLWxlYXZlQGxpc3RzLmZlZG9yYXByb2pl Y3Qub3JnCkZlZG9yYSBDb2RlIG9mIENvbmR1Y3Q6IGh0dHBzOi8vZG9jcy5mZWRvcmFwcm9qZWN0 Lm9yZy9lbi1VUy9wcm9qZWN0L2NvZGUtb2YtY29uZHVjdC8KTGlzdCBHdWlkZWxpbmVzOiBodHRw czovL2ZlZG9yYXByb2plY3Qub3JnL3dpa2kvTWFpbGluZ19saXN0X2d1aWRlbGluZXMKTGlzdCBB cmNoaXZlczogaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5mZWRvcmFwcm9qZWN0Lm9yZy9hcmNoaXZlcy9saXN0L2Rl c2t0b3BAbGlzdHMuZmVkb3JhcHJvamVjdC5vcmcKRG8gbm90IHJlcGx5IHRvIHNwYW0sIHJlcG9y dCBpdDogaHR0cHM6Ly9mb3JnZS5mZWRvcmFwcm9qZWN0Lm9yZy9pbmZyYS90aWNrZXRzL2lzc3Vl cy9uZXcK --===============5504415405133791540==--