Re: Self-Introduction: Carmen — Esperanto (also: How to add a new language in Zanata)

Rafal Luzynski <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.redhat.internationalization
Message-ID <[email protected]>
30.10.2018 12:53 Carmen Bianca Bakker <[email protected]> wrote:
> [...] The problem, however, is
> projects depending on a country being available.  Python's `locale`
> library behaves weirdly with Esperanto, and all sorts of downstream
> packages need to specially account for Esperanto because it's the odd
> one out---usually resulting in it being ignored entirely, because to be
> frank, Esperanto isn't the most common language.  And that's totally
> understandable.

This sounds like a bug in a Python's "locale" library. Probably it is
easy to fix but I don't volunteer to do it at the moment.

> [...] Esperanto needs a "country" so that it's
> not constantly broken downstream:
> 
> - Create "eo_NL" in the spirit of "ia_FR": Just pick a country (or a lot
>   of countries) and implement it.
> 
> - Create "eo_XX" or "eo_EO" with a fake "Esperantujo" country and
>   currency.
> 
> - Create "eo_XX" or "eo_EO" that is identical to the current "eo"
>   without actually adding any country information.
> 
> - Any combination of the above.

As much as possible I'd like to retain "eo" without a country. I hope
it is possible to fix it as it is.

> [...]
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1643756
> 
> I would've also proposed a fix if I knew how to find the problem.  But
> if you can find it, you have my thanks.

It seems that the fix has just been pushed.

I think I should also answer to your question from the previous email:

27.10.2018 11:32 Carmen Bianca Bakker <[email protected]> wrote:
> [...]
> Unfortunately, from the big distributions, only Debian (and its
> derivatives) have Esperanto available as a choice out of the box.  I
> want to make sure that Fedora also gets that option.
> 
> Could someone give me a few steps in the right direction to get that
> ball rolling? [...]

It is kinda ambiguous what it means that Fedora supports Esperanto
(or any other language) because it may mean that the language is:

* supported by glibc (now done),
* available in Zanata (done),
* available as a choice in Anaconda,
* available as a choice in system-config-language.

There may be other meanings but the list could be very long and
eventually we would conclude that no language (except English) is perfectly
supported by Fedora. :)

As a pattern you could review the issue tickets to add Filipino language
in Fedora:

https://pagure.io/g11n/issue/43
https://pagure.io/system-config-language/issue/3

Regards,

Rafal
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