Re: It is indeed, a very sad day...

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 05:12, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 21:24, Kevin Worthington wrote:
> Actually, I consider it pretty much stupid, braindead and retarded to
> keep such a destructive button (close) in a series of small buttons
> displayed all together and on the same side of the window.

I tend to agree.  What you say makes good sense to me.  At work,
however, I switch constantly between RH Linux and Windows 2000 or XP
running within a VMWare session.  Even though Microsoft's way is
probably bad, I find it easier to remain consistent so that I'm not
hunting for window buttons.  Let's face it, I can't customize windows to
do the right thing; I have to customize linux to do the wrong thing.  As
it is, I find myself constantly trying to shade Windows' windows by
double-clicking on the window's task bar.  :-)

> In my wm (sawfish), I'm running a theme called absolute-darkness.
> The window layout is:
> 
> .[min][max][menu][  Title   ][close]_________________.
> |                                                    |
> 
> It could/should be improved to (so close is always where you expect):
> 
> .[min][max][menu][           Title           ][close].
> |                                                    |
> 
> Plus, max has some pretty quircks:
>   (un)maximize vertically on middle mouse button click
>   (un)maximize horizontally on right mouse button click

Again, I agree.  The close button's position should always be
consistent.  I'd not like to hunt it every time I want to close a
window.  I like the quirks of the max button, though I rarely maximize
now that I've got a 17" monitor and run 1152x864.  I rarely use minimize
either.  90% of the time, I use window shading for getting windows out
of my way.
 
> This is a lot more sane than the MS Windows style.
> 
> Totally different from what the common guy is used to? Absolutely.
> More usable? Yes.
> Safer? Yes.
> 
> Why mimic what's bad?

Perhaps I've given you an argument for why.

> Rui
-- 
Philip A. Chapman

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