Re: Hats on YUD, VAV, and NUN sufit in DejaVU

Since DejaVu is quite a new font and Hebrew support is even younger, I
don't think that we should worry too much about an installed document
base.

As I said in the bugzilla page, the font is most similar to Nachlieli
and Arial, and I think it should copy its look for this issue as well.

Regarding diactrics, there already is support for that in DejaVu,
though I have yet to investigate the quality of its tables.

Regards,
Dov

P.S. I'm making quite a bit of progress with the programatic insertion
of nikud into the Culmus fonts, and I hope to have something to show
you in the next few days.

On 9/26/06, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Dov,
> I would leave the YUD and NUN-SOFIT as-is, straighten out the VAV. The
> reasoning is as follows:
>
> This is a sans-serif font. The bend at the top of the NUN is not a serif
> but balances the "foot" of the NUN. The bend at the top of the NUN-SOFIT
> differentiates the glyph from the VAV but retains an identifying
> similarity with the NUN. Neither the YUD nor the VAV need the bend.
>
> However - You also have to take into account the appearance of the
> equivalent fonts for which this font will substitute and you have to
> recalculate the metrics for any glyphs that you change, and you have to
> take into account what this change will do to the installed document base
> that already uses the font. We might be better off either not touching the
> font or touching it and giving it a new name. If you are already thinking
> about adding diacritics, then I think that we should give the font a new
> name anyway, and then other changes won't be an issue.
> Regards,
>
>   - yba
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Nadav Har'El wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:14:27 +0300
> > From: Nadav Har'El <nyh-TS7m/[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: Ivrix Discussions <[email protected]>
> > To: Ivrix Discussions <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Hats on YUD, VAV, and NUN sufit in DejaVU
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006, Dov Grobgeld wrote about "Hats on YUD, VAV, and NUN sufit in DejaVU":
> >> The main problem, imo, is that the YUD does not have a roof in the
> >> font, but the VAV and the NUN-SUFIT do. In my opinion this is
> >> inconsistent, and I filed a bug report to that extent:
> >
> > I wonder if the normal NUN shouldn't also be consistent with those three,
> > also without a "roof".
> > After all, shouldn't the NUN-SOFIT look like a "unfolded at the bottom"
> > version of the NUN, just like you can see for PE, TSADI and KAF?
> >
> > But then again, looking at a random calendar on my desk printed in sans-serif
> > font, it appears that the nun is not consistent with the others: yod, vav and
> > nun-sofit don't have roofs, but nun does.
> >
> > It's a bit scary that 25 years after first learning to read, I suddenly
> > realize that I'm actually unsure what the Hebrew letters should look like :)
> >
> >
>
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