Re: Will 12.1 ship ibus as default input method

2011/6/16 Satoru Matsumoto <[email protected]>:
> Hi mates,
>
> I will Cc this post to -factory and -ja lists in hopes of getting more
> feedback.
>
> @users who need to input multi-byte characters
>
> We are now discussing about replacing SCIM with iBus as our default
> input method for multi-byte characters.
>
> If you are interested in this topic, please try ibus related packages in
> M17N repo and if you find some problems, join the discussion on -m17n
> list or comment the feature #308892.
> https://features.opensuse.org/308892
>
>
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
>> At Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:31:53 +0000,
>> Ray Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> I've download 12.1 m1 DVD
>>> Found that default input method is still scim
>>> Scim seems out of maintenance
>>> I hope 12.1 can use ibus as default input method
>>> but keep scim in dvd as an optional choise
>>> and add gcin and fcitx (available in M17N) to dvd as an alternative choice
>>
>> I'm basically for it.
>> Does anyone have objection against it?
>
> As I commented in the feature #308892, current iBus has much more
> advantages than disadvantages compared with SCIM. So I'm also basically
> for it.
>
> However, if we set iBus as a default input method, I hope some issues
> will be solved until the release of openSUSE 12.1.
>
>
> - Input problem on Flash site
>
> Please go to
> http://bugzilla-attachments.mozilla.gr.jp/attachment.cgi?id=2275
> and try whether you can input characters there.
>
I can input Japanese characters in above link
see my screenshots
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/mcNXEtpH7tU7RkAh2qiUAQ?feat=directlink
and I also try another website:  http://weathernews.jp/
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hbobUjW4YxOZsEneyrF5HQ?feat=directlink
Seem OK with ibus 1.3.9 and ibus-anthy from M17N in my openSUSE 11.3 desktop
(11.3 x86 system, firefox 4.0.1, Shockwave Flash 10.3 r181)
rpm -qa | grep ibus
ibus-table-ipa-x-sampa-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-chinese-yong-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-easy-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-gtk-1.3.9-18.1.i586
ibus-table-translit-ua-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-cns11643-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-chinese-wu-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-array-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
libusb-1_0-0-1.0.8-1.2.i586
libusb-0_1-4-0.1.13-6.1.i586
libusbmuxd1-1.0.4-1.6.i586
libibus2-1.3.9-18.1.i586
ibus-anthy-1.2.6-12.1.i586
ibus-table-viqr-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-rustrad-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-compose-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-hangul-1.3.1-12.1.i586
ibus-table-chinese-wubi-haifeng-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-quick-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-cangjie-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-qt-1.3.1-10.1.i586
ibus-table-yawerty-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-thai-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-emoji-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-1.3.0.20100621-12.1.i586
ibus-m17n-1.3.2-13.1.i586
ibus-table-chinese-wubi-jidian-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-scj-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-cantonese-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-1.3.9-18.1.i586
ibus-chewing-1.3.9.2-1.1.i586
ibus-table-others-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-translit-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-chinese-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-chinese-stroke5-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-table-latex-1.3.0.20100528-1.1.i586
ibus-table-chinese-erbi-1.3.0.20101206-1.1.noarch
ibus-pinyin-1.3.11-12.1.i586
> # related bug report:
> # http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1113
>
> One of the Japanese users tweeted that he could input characters with
> openSUSE 12.1 M1 + M17N/iBus 1.3.9 + (anthy or mozc) + Firefox 5.0 beta,
> but I myself haven't tested it yet.
I think you should try
I'm from Taiwan, in fact I'm not sure what I've typed in
I launch firefox with command
export LC_ALL=ja_JP.UTF-8; firefox
click on ibus icon and choose anthy
Then I can input some Japanese characters
>
> At least, we need a workaround for this problem.
Seem solved upstream...


With Regards
Ray Chen
>
>
> - Input-pad
>
> Currently we don't have a good input-pad for inputting special
> characters or marks which can be integrated to iBus (SCIM has
> scim-input-pad for this purpose).
>
> I've found Input Pad project
> http://code.google.com/p/input-pad/
> and tried to build packages for openSUSE on OBS, but I haven't succeeded
> building them yet after openSUSE 11.4 (yep, I could use them at least on
> my openSUSE 11.3) and can't figure out the cause of the failure.
>
> I know who need it should work on it, but your help will be so much
> appreciated. ;-)
>
>> Basically we'd need two things:
>>
>> - Enable locale supplements in ibus.spec and IM packages
>> - Adjust the priority in xim.d in ibus.spec
>
> Reading the changelog of ibus package which is recently submitted to
> M17N repo by Ray, the priority is now set to 40. I think the score is
> reasonable and once we find a problem with this priority in the future,
> we will be able to change it anytime, won't we?
>
> Best,
>
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