Re: IM-related issues on openSUSE 12.1 Beta

Ray Chen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.suse.m17n
Message-ID <CAM-YUtXaPzgfdFWAEdyxehcPazeLdshaNnbjjEH0dgWQP-r-+A@mail.gmail.com>
在 2011年10月26日上午4:00,Takashi Iwai <[email protected]> 寫道:
> At Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:48:19 +0800,
> Ray Chen wrote:
>>
>> I've install openSUSE 12.1 rc1 DVD
>> I found that both ibus and scim related packages were installed by
>> default in Traditional Chinese environment
>> If we want ibus as default input method frame
>> scim should leave in DVD rather than install to the system
>> If I want to use scim, I can install it from DVD or oss repo
>>
>> My suggestion:
>> We should set PRIORITY of ibus to 60 for openSUSE 12.1 (older version
>> leave it as 40)
>> and remove "Provides: locale(ja;zh;ko)" from scim-related packages, so
>> they won't be install by default
>
> Why?  Just because SCIM is not used as default?
>
Yes, for an end user, if want to switch from ibus to scim,
all he(she) can think about it is to install scim and see if this works.
but if scim was installed, system still use ibus,
he(she) would try to unstall ibus.
But if we set ibus priority to 60, and not install scim by default,
he(she) can easily switch to scim,
maybe he will find that scim didn't fit his need, just remove scim,
and it's OK to return to ibus.

>> So if I want to try scim, I can just install scim (which PRIORITY is
>> 50 (and 49 for scim-bridge))
>> and I don't have to do anything except a relogin
>
> No, this doesn't make sense.  The priority should indicate really the
> priority.  If you do such a trick, the bug will return in the end later.
If openSUSE have an input method switch system(like ubuntu and debian
have a command : im-switch)
that the priority should really indicate the priority.
cause ibus fit the most general usage, so when no "user-define"
input-method was set, ibus should load automatically.
But openSUSE have not such tool, (yes, I know I can set "export
INPUT_METHOD="your_choice""
in ~./profile to specify input-method I need)
we have to do something convenience for end user,that is:
let user's newly installed input-method get the high priority (smaller number).

or, maybe we should develop a small ui tool,(or port im-switch to
openSUSE) let users can easily switch their input-method.

With Regards
Ray Chen
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
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