Re: IM-related issues on openSUSE 12.1 Beta

At Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:02:13 +0800,
Ray Chen wrote:
> 
> 在 2011年10月26日上午4:00，Takashi Iwai <[email protected]> 寫道：
> > At Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:48:19 +0800,
> > Ray Chen wrote:
> >>
> >> I've install openSUSE 12.1 rc1 DVD
> >> I found that both ibus and scim related packages were installed by
> >> default in Traditional Chinese environment
> >> If we want ibus as default input method frame
> >> scim should leave in DVD rather than install to the system
> >> If I want to use scim, I can install it from DVD or oss repo
> >>
> >> My suggestion:
> >> We should set PRIORITY of ibus to 60 for openSUSE 12.1 (older version
> >> leave it as 40)
> >> and remove "Provides: locale(ja;zh;ko)" from scim-related packages, so
> >> they won't be install by default
> >
> > Why?  Just because SCIM is not used as default?
> >
> Yes, for an end user, if want to switch from ibus to scim,
> all he(she) can think about it is to install scim and see if this works.
> but if scim was installed, system still use ibus,
> he(she) would try to unstall ibus.
> But if we set ibus priority to 60, and not install scim by default,
> he(she) can easily switch to scim,
> maybe he will find that scim didn't fit his need, just remove scim,
> and it's OK to return to ibus.

In your argument, the case with multiple users is totally missing.


> >> So if I want to try scim, I can just install scim (which PRIORITY is
> >> 50 (and 49 for scim-bridge))
> >> and I don't have to do anything except a relogin
> >
> > No, this doesn't make sense.  The priority should indicate really the
> > priority.  If you do such a trick, the bug will return in the end later.
> If openSUSE have an input method switch system(like ubuntu and debian
> have a command : im-switch)
> that the priority should really indicate the priority.
> cause ibus fit the most general usage, so when no "user-define"
> input-method was set, ibus should load automatically.
> But openSUSE have not such tool, (yes, I know I can set "export
> INPUT_METHOD="your_choice""
> in ~./profile to specify input-method I need)

Or change /etc/sysconfig/language.

> we have to do something convenience for end user,that is:
> let user's newly installed input-method get the high priority (smaller number).

No, the installation order would be random at the first installation.
(Imagine you install two IMs in the first installation.)

> or, maybe we should develop a small ui tool,(or port im-switch to
> openSUSE) let users can easily switch their input-method.

This is the way to go.


thanks,

Takashi
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