Re: IM-related issues on openSUSE 12.1 Beta

在 2011年10月26日下午8:48，Takashi Iwai <[email protected]> 寫道：
> At Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:02:13 +0800,
> Ray Chen wrote:
>>
>> 在 2011年10月26日上午4:00，Takashi Iwai <[email protected]> 寫道：
>> > At Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:48:19 +0800,
>> > Ray Chen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've install openSUSE 12.1 rc1 DVD
>> >> I found that both ibus and scim related packages were installed by
>> >> default in Traditional Chinese environment
>> >> If we want ibus as default input method frame
>> >> scim should leave in DVD rather than install to the system
>> >> If I want to use scim, I can install it from DVD or oss repo
>> >>
>> >> My suggestion:
>> >> We should set PRIORITY of ibus to 60 for openSUSE 12.1 (older version
>> >> leave it as 40)
>> >> and remove "Provides: locale(ja;zh;ko)" from scim-related packages, so
>> >> they won't be install by default
>> >
>> > Why?  Just because SCIM is not used as default?
>> >
>> Yes, for an end user, if want to switch from ibus to scim,
>> all he(she) can think about it is to install scim and see if this works.
>> but if scim was installed, system still use ibus,
>> he(she) would try to unstall ibus.
>> But if we set ibus priority to 60, and not install scim by default,
>> he(she) can easily switch to scim,
>> maybe he will find that scim didn't fit his need, just remove scim,
>> and it's OK to return to ibus.
>
> In your argument, the case with multiple users is totally missing.
>
>
>> >> So if I want to try scim, I can just install scim (which PRIORITY is
>> >> 50 (and 49 for scim-bridge))
>> >> and I don't have to do anything except a relogin
>> >
>> > No, this doesn't make sense.  The priority should indicate really the
>> > priority.  If you do such a trick, the bug will return in the end later.
>> If openSUSE have an input method switch system(like ubuntu and debian
>> have a command : im-switch)
>> that the priority should really indicate the priority.
>> cause ibus fit the most general usage, so when no "user-define"
>> input-method was set, ibus should load automatically.
>> But openSUSE have not such tool, (yes, I know I can set "export
>> INPUT_METHOD="your_choice""
>> in ~./profile to specify input-method I need)
>
> Or change /etc/sysconfig/language.
>
>> we have to do something convenience for end user,that is:
>> let user's newly installed input-method get the high priority (smaller number).
>
> No, the installation order would be random at the first installation.
> (Imagine you install two IMs in the first installation.)
OK, I understand
>
>> or, maybe we should develop a small ui tool,(or port im-switch to
>> openSUSE) let users can easily switch their input-method.
>
> This is the way to go.
Hope this will come true soon
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
Another ibus issue is about the icons
By now, these icons are not so good looking in both KDE4 and GNOME3,
(I'm talking about icons in /usr/share/ibus-chewing/icons/ (or any
other ibus-*/icons/)
Hope openSUSE artwork team can help to improve
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