Re: IM-related issues on openSUSE 12.1 Beta

At Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:03:54 +0800,
Ray Chen wrote:
> 
> 在 2011年10月26日下午8:48，Takashi Iwai <[email protected]> 寫道：
> > At Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:02:13 +0800,
> > Ray Chen wrote:
> >>
> >> 在 2011年10月26日上午4:00，Takashi Iwai <[email protected]> 寫道：
> >> > At Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:48:19 +0800,
> >> > Ray Chen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I've install openSUSE 12.1 rc1 DVD
> >> >> I found that both ibus and scim related packages were installed by
> >> >> default in Traditional Chinese environment
> >> >> If we want ibus as default input method frame
> >> >> scim should leave in DVD rather than install to the system
> >> >> If I want to use scim, I can install it from DVD or oss repo
> >> >>
> >> >> My suggestion:
> >> >> We should set PRIORITY of ibus to 60 for openSUSE 12.1 (older version
> >> >> leave it as 40)
> >> >> and remove "Provides: locale(ja;zh;ko)" from scim-related packages, so
> >> >> they won't be install by default
> >> >
> >> > Why?  Just because SCIM is not used as default?
> >> >
> >> Yes, for an end user, if want to switch from ibus to scim,
> >> all he(she) can think about it is to install scim and see if this works.
> >> but if scim was installed, system still use ibus,
> >> he(she) would try to unstall ibus.
> >> But if we set ibus priority to 60, and not install scim by default,
> >> he(she) can easily switch to scim,
> >> maybe he will find that scim didn't fit his need, just remove scim,
> >> and it's OK to return to ibus.
> >
> > In your argument, the case with multiple users is totally missing.
> >
> >
> >> >> So if I want to try scim, I can just install scim (which PRIORITY is
> >> >> 50 (and 49 for scim-bridge))
> >> >> and I don't have to do anything except a relogin
> >> >
> >> > No, this doesn't make sense.  The priority should indicate really the
> >> > priority.  If you do such a trick, the bug will return in the end later.
> >> If openSUSE have an input method switch system(like ubuntu and debian
> >> have a command : im-switch)
> >> that the priority should really indicate the priority.
> >> cause ibus fit the most general usage, so when no "user-define"
> >> input-method was set, ibus should load automatically.
> >> But openSUSE have not such tool, (yes, I know I can set "export
> >> INPUT_METHOD="your_choice""
> >> in ~./profile to specify input-method I need)
> >
> > Or change /etc/sysconfig/language.
> >
> >> we have to do something convenience for end user,that is:
> >> let user's newly installed input-method get the high priority (smaller number).
> >
> > No, the installation order would be random at the first installation.
> > (Imagine you install two IMs in the first installation.)
> OK, I understand
> >
> >> or, maybe we should develop a small ui tool,(or port im-switch to
> >> openSUSE) let users can easily switch their input-method.
> >
> > This is the way to go.
> Hope this will come true soon

Hey, you can join! ;)



> > thanks,
> >
> > Takashi
> >
> Another ibus issue is about the icons
> By now, these icons are not so good looking in both KDE4 and GNOME3,
> (I'm talking about icons in /usr/share/ibus-chewing/icons/ (or any
> other ibus-*/icons/)
> Hope openSUSE artwork team can help to improve

I think it's better to ask this in another ML.
If we get a better icon and upstream it, it'll be certainly a good
contribution from openSUSE.


thanks,

Takashi
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