Re: LTSP joining the worldwide patent non-agression community
James McQuillan <[email protected]> Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:03:10 -0500
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--===============6161902869358992754== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b873a1024c62704ecbc94e2 --047d7b873a1024c62704ecbc94e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry folks, that reply was intended for Valer, the OIN guy. Thanks to Michael Shigoran for pointing that out. Jim. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM, James McQuillan <[email protected]> wrote: > Valer, > > Sorry I've been dragging my feet on this. > > The problem is, LTSP is a fairly loose bunch of developers without any > kind of corporation or legal entity overseeing it. > > I'm the founder and project leader, but I didn't feel comfortable just > jumping in and agreeing, without getting some feedback from other LTSP > developers. > > I've sent out an email to our dev mailing list, sharing your information. > > I expect that nobody will have a problem with it, but I'd like to give it > a couple of days, just to see what people have to say. > > Let's say that by next monday, Dec 9th we touch base, and if everybody's > Ok with it, I'll go ahead and sign the agreement on behalf of LTSP? > > Jim McQuillan > [email protected] > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, James McQuillan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> I've been approached by someone from the Open Invention Network about >> LTSP joining a community of organizations pledging not to use patents >> against each other over Linux system technology. >> >> There's some big players in the OIN community and I'm inclined to join, >> but I just wanted to pass it by you guys to get your opinion. maybe i'm >> missing something. >> >> If anybody has any thoughts, concerns or objections, please let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> Jim McQuillan >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Valer Mischenko <[email protected]> >> Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM >> Subject: LTSP joining the worldwide patent non-agression community >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> My name is Valer and I am writing to you on behalf of the Open Invention >> Network (www.openinventionnetwork.com). Our mission is to support >> projects like LTSP developing or using Linux-related technology by >> deterring patent aggression. >> >> We do this through a community that pledges not to assert patents against >> each other over Linux System technology. This pledge covers over 2,100 Open >> Source packages. It is structured to reduce risk on core operating system >> and middleware technologies. More than 600 companies and projects from all >> areas of technology creation, deployment and use have joined our community >> so far. >> >> (BTW, until shortly I worked as director of NLnet Foundation. There from >> we have supported one of LTSP projects, namely LTSP-Cluster of Benoit des >> Ligneris. I have signed the agreement with OIN in the name of NLnet half a >> year ago). >> >> The OIN community is free to join. The only thing we want is a pledge >> that you would never use patents aggressively against the Linux System. >> That's a symbolic gesture for most projects but it remains very important >> for our work. Participation with OIN also brings you an experienced, >> well-funded friend if you are approached by aggressive third parties. >> >> You may be interested in our community credentials and to get some more >> context about our work. >> >> Here is an endorsement from Eben Moglen, Chairman of the Software Freedom >> Law Center: >> http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/now/organizations/OIN >> >> Here is an endorsement from Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the Linux >> Foundation: >> >> http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/2009/09/09/protecting-linux-from-microsoft-yesmicrosoft-got-caught/ >> >> We are passionate supporters of the Linux System and open innovation. I >> hope we can work together by welcoming you to our non-aggression community. >> Every single voice helps us face current market challenges while investing >> in a more collaborative future. >> >> Attached is a very short overview of OIN + FAQs, but I am happy to answer >> any questions and to explain in more detail why the pledge of Linux System >> and open source patent non-aggression is so important for open innovation. >> >> Regards, >> >> Valer Mischenko, >> Open Invention Network, >> EMEA representative. >> >> > --047d7b873a1024c62704ecbc94e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry folks, =A0that reply was intended for Valer, the OIN= guy.<div><br></div><div>Thanks to Michael Shigoran for pointing that out.<= /div><div><br></div><div>Jim.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM, James McQuillan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wr= ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border= -left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Valer,<div><br></div><div>Sorry I've been dragging my = feet on this.</div><div><br></div><div>The problem is, =A0LTSP is a fairly = loose bunch of developers without any kind of corporation or legal entity o= verseeing it.</div> <div><br></div><div>I'm the founder and project leader, but I didn'= t feel comfortable just jumping in and agreeing, without getting some feedb= ack from other LTSP developers.</div><div><br></div><div>I've sent out = an email to our dev mailing list, sharing your information.</div> <div><br></div><div>I expect that nobody will have a problem with it, but I= 'd like to give it a couple of days, just to see what people have to sa= y.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's say that by next monday, Dec 9th we t= ouch base, and if everybody's Ok with it, I'll go ahead and sign th= e agreement on behalf of LTSP?</div> <div><br></div><div>Jim McQuillan</div><div>[email protected]</div><div><br></di= v></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">= <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, James Mc= Quillan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bl= ank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey guys,<div><br></div><di= v>I've been approached by someone from the Open Invention Network about= LTSP joining a community of organizations pledging not to use patents agai= nst each other over Linux system technology.</div> <div><br></div><div>There's some big players in the OIN community and I= 'm inclined to join, but I just wanted to pass it by you guys to get yo= ur opinion. =A0maybe i'm missing something.</div><div><br></div><div> If anybody has any thoughts, concerns or objections, please let me know.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jim McQuillan</div><div>[email protected]= rg</div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Valer Mischenko</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a>></span><br>Date: Mon, Oct 7, 20= 13 at 1:51 PM<br> Subject: LTSP joining the worldwide patent non-agression community<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><= br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Jim,<br><br>My name is Valer and I am writi= ng to you on behalf of=20 the Open Invention Network (<a href=3D"http://www.openinventionnetwork.com"= target=3D"_blank">www.openinventionnetwork.com</a>). Our mission is to sup= port projects=20 like LTSP developing or using Linux-related technology by=20 deterring patent aggression.<br> <br>We do this through a community that pledges not to assert patents=20 against each other over Linux System technology. This pledge covers over 2,100 Open Source packages. It is structured to reduce risk on core=20 operating system and middleware technologies. More than 600 companies=20 and projects from all areas of technology creation, deployment and use=20 have joined our community so far.<br><br></div>(BTW, until shortly I worked= as director of NLnet Foundation. There from we have supported one of LTSP = projects, namely LTSP-Cluster of Benoit des Ligneris. I have signed the agr= eement with OIN in the name of NLnet half a year ago).<br> <div> <br>The OIN community is free to join. The only thing we want is a pledge= =20 that you would never use patents aggressively against the Linux System.=20 That's a symbolic gesture for most projects but it remains very=20 important for our work. Participation with OIN also brings you an=20 experienced, well-funded friend if you are approached by aggressive=20 third parties.<br> <br>You may be interested in our community credentials and to get some more= context about our work.<br><br>Here is an endorsement from Eben Moglen, Ch= airman of the Software Freedom Law Center:<br><a href=3D"http://emoglen.law= .columbia.edu/now/organizations/OIN" target=3D"_blank">http://emoglen.law.c= olumbia.edu/now/organizations/OIN</a><br> <br>Here is an endorsement from Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the Linux= Foundation:<br><a href=3D"http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/= 2009/09/09/protecting-linux-from-microsoft-yesmicrosoft-got-caught/" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/2009/09/09/prot= ecting-linux-from-microsoft-yesmicrosoft-got-caught/</a><br> <br>We are passionate supporters of the Linux System and open=20 innovation. I hope we can work together by welcoming you to our=20 non-aggression community. Every single voice helps us face current=20 market challenges while investing in a more collaborative future.<br> <br>Attached is a very short overview of OIN + FAQs, but I am happy to=20 answer any questions and to explain in more detail why the pledge of=20 Linux System and open source patent non-aggression is so important for=20 open innovation.<br> <br>Regards,<br><br>Valer Mischenko,<br>Open Invention Network,<br>EMEA rep= resentative.</div></div> </div><br></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7b873a1024c62704ecbc94e2-- --===============6161902869358992754== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. 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