Re: Classic case of why Linux ultimately must fail

Against my better judgement Ill continue...
First off you failed to answer what Dex was quite wrong about.
Secondly you never cleared up what additude it was that is keeping 
mortals away from Linux and exactly which immortals are useing it.

Pablo Vieira wrote:

>OK, here is one huge annoyance of Linux which relates this thread with
>the list: Linux geeks believing they have the truth. Linux gurus
>explaining to the world the Holy word. 
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What is this truth you keep refering to?  Let me in on what the "Linux 
Geeks" are preaching to the "regular mortals".
What is this Holy Word? Why hasn't a Linux guru explained to me the 
HolyWord?
I cannot imagine that I've been useing Linux for almost 5 years and have 
yet to hear this Holy Word of the guru.

>All that bullshit the original
>poster was referring to is VERY annoying.
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So is this drivle.

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>What people who use Linux should do with people annoyed like the
>original poster is ask them not to leave Linux forums and show them a
>smile instead of all the despise and all the wrath against Windows,
>Microsoft, propietary software, etc. you are so fond of. 
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Are you suggesting that I am fond of Microsoft , fond of wrath against 
Microsoft, fond of proprietary software, or a smile?
Im lost in you blabber. Beside noone asked him to leave he did it on his 
own.

>All that MS bashing is showing a big complex of inferiority in this community which
>is itself another huge Linux annoyance.
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I suggest you RTFT before posting. Microsoft has not once been mentioned 
in a negative manner in this thread. You are the one throwing gas on the 
fire. As a matter of fact I like MS windows, I like it so much I have 2 
windows boxes sitting in my kitchen at home. I also like Linux which is 
why I run it on my servers and my laptop. You should know something 
about someone before posting your widely synthetic generalizations.
As for proprietary software, some of the best software in the world is 
closed source. What of it? Well when a programmer goes to reinvent part 
of that wheel, or build an atachment for it, he is not as literate as he 
would be if the "wheel" were written and the sources to it were open. I 
don't think your "mortal" users are worried about programmers and source 
code, but literate programmers program fewer bugs which lead to fewer 
vulnerabilities which leads to customer/end user/mortal satisfaction. So 
the Truth? If you ask this linux geek, I say the truth is more than %50 
of the population is below average inteligence. I don't care If they 
ever want to use Linux. It's enough explaining to them why they 
shouldn't open every exe that hits the inbox. I don't want to start 
explaining why they shouldn't work as root, and I believe this is going 
to be ignored equaly as patching Microsoft products is by end users.

>I believe these two annoyances alone are enough to keep soooo many
>people away from Linux.
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I think its because they are afraid to learn something new or  they 
believe they can accomplish more by not straying from the path.
I often hear "It takes too long" or "Its not the same" or "I don't know 
how to do anything"

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>Pablo
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>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: annoyances-bounces-DzJonyRHso41Ayx8vbq1stBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org 
>>[mailto:annoyances-bounces-DzJonyRHso41Ayx8vbq1stBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org] En nombre de 
>>Eric G Ortego
>>Enviado el: martes, 14 de octubre de 2003 17:24
>>Para: Seeking Linux annoyances for a book.
>>Asunto: Re: [Annoyances] Classic case of why Linux ultimately 
>>must fail
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>>Pablo Vieira wrote:
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>>>Wrong, Dex, quite wrong.
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>>About what?
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>>>This is another attitude that keeps regular mortals from trying Linux:
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>>What are you talking about?  This has nothing to do with our 
>>mortality.
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>>>this feeling of having to enter the elite is pretty annoying by itself.
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>>This mailing list has no elite of which to enter into, it is 
>>a call for annoyances of an operating system.
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>>>Live and let live, do things better than others so people will like 
>>>your software better. Convince with facts, not with chats.
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>>He convinced me with the fact that it took him 2 seconds to 
>>delete the 
>>thread. And 10 seconds to read it IIRC.
>>Why should it have taken that long? Why not longer? 
>>Enlighten us please with your elite annoyances.
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>>I think Dex was right on the money this mailing list is 
>>titled "Seeking 
>>Linux annoyances for a book" , not "Seeking the Open Source 
>>Politicaly 
>>elite" or as he put it not "geek philosophy chatter" ,still the fact 
>>remains R. Bruce started this fruitless thred and it is truly 
>>annoying.
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>>>Pablo
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>>>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>>>De: annoyances-bounces-DzJonyRHso41Ayx8vbq1stBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
>>>>[mailto:annoyances-bounces-DzJonyRHso41Ayx8vbq1stBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org] En nombre de 
>>>>Dexter Filmore
>>>>Enviado el: martes, 14 de octubre de 2003 15:41
>>>>Para: Seeking Linux annoyances for a book.
>>>>Asunto: Re: [Annoyances] Classic case of why Linux ultimately 
>>>>must fail
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>>>>On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:20:22 -0700
>>>>"R. Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>Hi:
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>>>>> Well, it seems the Linux Annoyances forum  has become a
>>>>>single-thread topic -- Open Source Politics -- devoted to explaining
>>>>>to the unconverted why Open Source has copyrighted The Truth once and for all.
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>>>>Selecting the thread and deleting it took me about 2 seconds
>>>>in Sylpheed. Add another extra 10 seconds for reading the 
>>>>first post and deciding that it's better to select and delete 
>>>>the thread since this is "annoyances", not "geek philosophy 
>>>>chatter". I manged it all by my own. Go figure.
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>>>>> Yawn -- I'm bored now.  Please unsubscribe me.
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>>>>Yes, list admin, do it - and unsubscribe everybody else who
>>>>clutters the list with obsolete whining.
>>>>
>>>>Dex
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