Re: new mail: USB controller problem on MIPSEL embedded board

Alan Stern <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.usb.devel,gmane.linux.ports.mips
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Paolo Giarrusso wrote:

> 2007/8/25, David Brownell <[email protected]>:
> > > http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=16&threadid=73502&enterthread=y
> >
> > Interesting, so that "performance drops after starting EHCI"
> > issue shows up with MS-Windows too.  Now all we need is to
> > have someone throw a logic analyser on a PCI bus that's
> > experiencing that problem, and maybe we can get clues... :)
> 
> Well - is there anybody who has the experience to do that?

It's not a matter of experience -- it's a matter of having the right 
equipment.  Logic analyzers aren't cheap.

>  Alan had an
> old VIA card (older than mine), and _maybe_ I could send one of these
> DVB sticks to try reproducing the problem.
> 
> Would it be useful to contact DVB developers so that they try
> understanding which USB features they are trying to use? As I've said,
> any other USB highspeed or lowspeed device works well in this board.

Perhaps if you knew exactly what URB triggered the problem it might 
help.  Maybe.

>  I
> was CC'ing the dvb mailing list but all mails were rejected since I'm
> not subscribed.

There's an easy solution to that...  :-)

> > That page *does* suggest the VIA parts don't obey chunks of
> > the PCI spec ... it's not just EHCI they have problems with.
> 
> No idea with that - they claim that motherboard chipset does not
> support "bus parking", but I'm not able to grasp what you say.
> However, I had tested without success (but not in so much detail)
> other DVB sticks, even from other vendors and even USB 1.1 - so it is
> not only EHCI broken, it is the whole controller.

USB 1.1?  You mean a full-speed stick has the same problem?  That's 
definitely worth pursuing.  We've never seen this sort of problem with 
a UHCI controller.

Alan Stern


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