Re: Using SMARTd to monitor drives

Gregory Sloop <[email protected]> Fri, 3 Feb 2017 18:25:58 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.linux.utilities.smartmontools
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This certainly isn't an attempt at snark - but smartmontools is, I think, i=
ntended at sysadmin type people. There are tools for end-users that are les=
s technical and more idiot-light style.=20

I'm not an idiot but at the same time there are folks who want utility with=
out devoting years of study to get it.

I think you're putting us on a bit. Years of study? :)=20
But yes, it is rather voluminous, the options and such. *nix tools are like=
 that, often. Go read the man page for find sometime. But to do so much in =
a command-line tool, that's usually the way of it.=20

I wish it were different, when I'm trying to do something complex [for exam=
ple in find] and I have to spend 45 minutes trying to make it work, and can=
't. I wish it were easy. I wish a google search would give me something I c=
ould mostly cut/paste in. [As long as I'm wishing, I'd like a pony too!]=20

But alas, sometimes it's just not that easy.=20



I think, in general, that I'd prefer smartmontools to keep the detailed tec=
hnical focus and not have the more friendly interface, if doing so meant th=
at the technical prowess of smt had to be diminished.=20

Does it really have to be one or the other?

I'm sure it wouldn't, if resources were unlimited. But Christian only has s=
o much time he can work on this. Heck, I wish he'd write a native Windows p=
ort with a built in mailer and GUI. But to do that, he'd have to either get=
 someone to pay for it, or cut somewhere else. Since I'm sure I can't pay f=
or his dev time, I make do with what I get: A great tool that does a vast a=
mount of stuff, and supports a vast number of devices. I've written my own =
code to handle routine-checks, emailing when non success events occur etc. =
I did it in power-shell. No, it's not at all perfect - but it works and Chr=
istian didn't have to forgo some other development work that's probably mor=
e important and certainly demands more technical skill that he has and I do=
n't.



  If I myself could become competent I'd do just as you say!  Alas, I'm sti=
ll trying to figure it out myself.

I hope you'll pause and take the time, once you've become more competent, t=
o write up what you can. At worst, no one will use it. At best, it could be=
 a distinct help to many.

Cheers!
-Greg

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<td><span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;">This certai=
nly isn't an attempt at snark - but smartmontools is, I think, intended at =
sysadmin type people. There are tools for end-users that are less technical=
 and more idiot-light style. <br>
<br>
I'm not an idiot but at the same time there are folks who want utility with=
out devoting years of study to get it.</td>
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<span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">I think you're =
putting us on a bit. Years of study? :) <br>
But yes, it is rather voluminous, the options and such. *nix tools are like=
 that, often. Go read the man page for find sometime. But to do so much in =
a command-line tool, that's usually the way of it. <br>
<br>
I wish it were different, when I'm trying to do something complex [for exam=
ple in find] and I have to spend 45 minutes trying to make it work, and can=
't. I wish it were easy. I wish a google search would give me something I c=
ould mostly cut/paste in. [As long as I'm wishing, I'd like a pony too!] <b=
r>
<br>
But alas, sometimes it's just not that easy. <br>
<br>
</span><table bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<tr>
<td width=3D2 bgcolor=3D #0000ff><br>
</td>
<td><br><br>
<span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;">I think, in gen=
eral, that I'd prefer smartmontools to keep the detailed technical focus an=
d not have the more friendly interface, if doing so meant that the technica=
l prowess of smt had to be diminished. <br>
<br>
Does it really have to be one or the other?</td>
</tr>
</table>
<br><br>
<span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">I'm sure it wou=
ldn't, if resources were unlimited. But Christian only has so much time he =
can work on this. Heck, I wish he'd write a native Windows port with a buil=
t in mailer and GUI. But to do that, he'd have to either get someone to pay=
 for it, or cut somewhere else. Since I'm sure I can't pay for his dev time=
, I make do with what I get: A great tool that does a vast amount of stuff,=
 and supports a vast number of devices. I've written my own code to handle =
routine-checks, emailing when non success events occur etc. I did it in pow=
er-shell. No, it's not at all perfect - but it works and Christian didn't h=
ave to forgo some other development work that's probably more important and=
 certainly demands more technical skill that he has and I don't.<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><table bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<tr>
<td width=3D2 bgcolor=3D #0000ff><br>
</td>
<td><span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;"> &nbsp;If I=
 myself could become competent I'd do just as you say! &nbsp;Alas, I'm stil=
l trying to figure it out myself.<br>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">I hope you'll p=
ause and take the time, once you've become more competent, to write up what=
 you can. At worst, no one will use it. At best, it could be a distinct hel=
p to many.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
-Greg<br>
<br>
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