Re: Using SMARTd to monitor drives
Ray Andrews <[email protected]> Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:44:18 -0800
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4064218222915252723== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_L6s1P3Lr649fQR17Ovs92w)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_L6s1P3Lr649fQR17Ovs92w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 03/02/17 06:25 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote: > Re: [smartmontools-support] Using SMARTd to monitor drives > > > =09 > > I think you're putting us on a bit. Years of study? :) Well ok, months then ;-) > But yes, it is rather voluminous, the options and such. *nix tools = are=20 > like that, often. Go read the man page for find sometime. But to do= so=20 > much in a command-line tool, that's usually the way of it. God, I know. I sometimes make cut down man pages that get rid of the= =20 settings for the Coptic calendar and base 7 time reporting -- one wil= l=20 only ever use 10% of what's available in some commands. And the text = is=20 usually written by experts for experts, that is, you have to already = be=20 an expert to even understand what's being said. > > > But alas, sometimes it's just not that easy. > Sure, that's the culture. But I rebel! I like docs that tell real= =20 people what they need to know for real situations in language that th= ey=20 can understand. > > =09 > > I think, in general, that I'd prefer smartmontools to keep the=20 > detailed technical focus and not have the more friendly interface, = if=20 > doing so meant that the technical prowess of smt had to be diminish= ed. > > Does it really have to be one or the other? > > > > I'm sure it wouldn't, if resources were unlimited. But Christian on= ly=20 > has so much time he can work on this. Heck, I wish he'd write a nat= ive=20 > Windows port with a built in mailer and GUI. But to do that, he'd h= ave=20 > to either get someone to pay for it, or cut somewhere else. Since I= 'm=20 > sure I can't pay for his dev time, I make do with what I get: A gre= at=20 > tool that does a vast amount of stuff, and supports a vast number o= f=20 > devices. I've written my own code to handle routine-checks, emailin= g=20 > when non success events occur etc. I did it in power-shell. No, it'= s=20 > not at all perfect - but it works and Christian didn't have to forg= o=20 > some other development work that's probably more important and=20 > certainly demands more technical skill that he has and I don't. Sure! We don't forget this is a volunteer effort. > > > > =09 If I myself could become competent I'd do just as you say! Ala= s,=20 > I'm still trying to figure it out myself. > > I hope you'll pause and take the time, once you've become more=20 > competent, to write up what you can. At worst, no one will use it. = At=20 > best, it could be a distinct help to many. Maybe! I'm a pretty famous document writer in my other life. > > Cheers! > -Greg > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > Smartmontools-support mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support --Boundary_(ID_L6s1P3Lr649fQR17Ovs92w) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 03/02/17 06:25 PM, Gregory Sloo= p wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" type=3D"cite"> <title>Re: [smartmontools-support] Using SMARTd to monitor driv= es</title> <br> <br> <table bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <tbody> <tr> <td bgcolor=3D"#0000ff" width=3D"2"><br> </td> <td><br> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">I t= hink you're putting us on a bit. Years of study? :) <br> </span></blockquote> <br> Well ok, months then ;-)<br> <br> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" type=3D"cite"><span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-s= ize: 9pt;"> But yes, it is rather voluminous, the options and such. *nix tools are like that, often. Go read the man page for find sometime. But to do so much in a command-line tool, that's usually the way of it. <br> </span></blockquote> <br> God, I know.=A0 I sometimes make cut down man pages that get rid = of the settings for the Coptic calendar and base 7 time reporting -- one will only ever use 10% of what's available in some commands.= =A0=A0 And the text is usually written by experts for experts, that is, = you have to already be an expert to even understand what's being said= .<br> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" type=3D"cite"><span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-s= ize: 9pt;"> <br> <br> But alas, sometimes it's just not that easy. <br> <br> </span></blockquote> Sure, that's the culture.=A0 But I rebel!=A0 I like docs that tel= l real people what they need to know for real situations in language tha= t they can understand.=A0 <br> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" type=3D"cite"> <table bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <tbody> <tr> <td bgcolor=3D"#0000ff" width=3D"2"><br> </td> <td><br> <br> <span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9= pt;">I think, in general, that I'd prefer smartmontools to k= eep the detailed technical focus and not have the more friendly interface, if doing so meant that the techni= cal prowess of smt had to be diminished. <br> <br> Does it really have to be one or the other?</span></t= d> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">I'm= sure it wouldn't, if resources were unlimited. But Christian only = has so much time he can work on this. Heck, I wish he'd write a native Windows port with a built in mailer and GUI. But to do that, he'd have to either get someone to pay for it, or cut somewhere else. Since I'm sure I can't pay for his dev time, = I make do with what I get: A great tool that does a vast amount= of stuff, and supports a vast number of devices. I've written my own code to handle routine-checks, emailing when non success events occur etc. I did it in power-shell. No, it's not at al= l perfect - but it works and Christian didn't have to forgo som= e other development work that's probably more important and certainly demands more technical skill that he has and I don'= t.<br> </span></blockquote> <br> Sure!=A0 We don't forget this is a volunteer effort.<br> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" type=3D"cite"><span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-s= ize: 9pt;"> <br> <br> </span> <table bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <tbody> <tr> <td bgcolor=3D"#0000ff" width=3D"2"><br> </td> <td><span style=3D" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;"> =A0If I myself could become competent I'd do j= ust as you say! =A0Alas, I'm still trying to figure it ou= t myself.<br> </span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">I h= ope you'll pause and take the time, once you've become more competent, to write up what you can. At worst, no one will us= e it. At best, it could be a distinct help to many.<br> </span></blockquote> <br> Maybe!=A0 I'm a pretty famous document writer in my other life.<b= r> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]" type=3D"cite"><span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-s= ize: 9pt;"> <br> Cheers!<br> -Greg<br> <br> <br> <fieldset class=3D"mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap=3D"">----------------------------------------------= -------------------------------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"= href=3D"http://sdm.link/slashdot">http://sdm.link/slashdot</a></pre> <br> <fieldset class=3D"mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap=3D"">______________________________________________= _ Smartmontools-support mailing list <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:Smartmontools-su= [email protected]">[email protected].= net</a> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.= net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support">https://lists.sourceforge.n= et/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support</a> </pre> </span></blockquote> <p><br> </p> </body> </html> --Boundary_(ID_L6s1P3Lr649fQR17Ovs92w)-- --===============4064218222915252723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot --===============4064218222915252723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Smartmontools-support mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support --===============4064218222915252723==--