Re: Spec to define the default terminal?

I would very much like to receive some additional feedback and a
rough assessment of whether this concept has any chance of being
turned into a spec.

2017-05-25 18:21, Vladimir Kudrya
пишет:

Script updated.

Now the list of config files is pregenerated based on
$CONFIG_HIERARCHY and $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP treated as lists.

2017-05-25 17:07, Vladimir Kudrya
пишет:

From here: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/latest/ar01s02.html

This is determined from taking the
ascii-lowercase form of a component the environment variable
$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP, which is a colon-separated list of names
that the current desktop is known as.

I'll make the changes accordingly.

2017-05-25 17:02, Roman
Chistokhodov пишет:

There's already lowercase version in XDG_MENU_PREFIX
variable (it also usually includes trailing '-') which is
part of menu spec. But I'm not sure if it's applicable
here.

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:59 PM,
Vladimir Kudrya <[email protected] >
wrote:

Merged, thanks!

$XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP... Not sure. Probably it's
from pam_systemd.

It would be more reliable to take lowercase of
$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then.

2017-05-25
16:53, Roman Chistokhodov пишет:

I found error in processing TryExec. Made
pull request.

What the specification is XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP
part of?

On Thu, May 25, 2017
at 2:03 PM, Vladimir Kudrya <[email protected] >
wrote:

I'm backing
up my proposal with some code:

https://github.com/Vladimir-csp/xdg-terminal-exec

Please test.

2017-05-25 10:09, Vladimir Kudrya пишет:

So now
xdg-termial is a collection of
workarouds to tie different DE's
approaches together. Just like
xdg-open.

IMHO, there should be a movement
towards proper standards.

@Simon, with your remarks taken into
accout, here is an update:

Using desktop entries to define
terminals gives advantages to
downstream tools (selector GUIs,
etc.) by providing proper
descriptions, l10n.

Places to look could be extended
beyond /usr, into a proper
${XDG_DATA_[HOME|DIRS]} hierarchy,
so it would look like this:

Terminal descriptios:

~/.local/share/xdg-terminals
($XDG_DATA_HOME)

{/usr/local/share,/usr/share}/xdg-terminals
($XDG_DATA_DIRS)

Configs:

~/.config/$desktop-xdg-terminals.list
($XDG_CONFIG_HOME)

~/.config/xdg-terminals.list

/etc/xdg/$desktop-xdg-terminals.list
($XDG_CONFIG_DIRS)

/etc/xdg/xdg-terminals.list

If this logic would be embeded into
xdg-terminal, that would be a great
start.

2017-05-25 09:16, Simon Lees wrote:

We
already have the xdg-terminal
binary which launches the terminal

based off the currently running
desktop. I think a better approach
would

be to integrate with that existing
infrastructure, it could be
modified

for example to check for the
existence of a config file in 1
maybe

several dirs (I guess a sysadmin
may want to configure a default

terminal for all his users).

That config file would contain the
path to the terminal followed by
the

exec command. This approach is
less secure as someone could
modify the

config file without you realising
(I guess this could happen
anyway).

I don't like the idea of
describing exec arguments only
somewhere in

/usr, it would mean that if I was
working on a machine that I didn't

have root access to and I wanted
to use some less popular or new

terminal that hadn't been added to
the list yet I wouldn't be able
to. I

also wouldn't be able to use a
terminal that I had built from
source in

my home dir and added to my path.

I also think in the days of the
X11 / wayland transition prefixing
the

config files with xdg- rather then
x- is a better approach, I may be
on

my own with that though.

Cheers

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