Re: Hello?

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:50:21 +0100
"Frantz Dhin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
> The short answer: no
> We are working on a codebase which hopefully should bring us to first alpha
> of package manager in January/February. From there it's wide open to
> contributions. Going quiet about our stuff right now cause there is nothing
> to hype about... yet :)  Will start beating the advertising drums on this
> list as soon as it makes sense, but now it might not be so long.
> -F

Is the codebase available anywhere? I'd like to do whatever I can to help.

I've been waiting too long to have a stable gentoo that I can install on servers. Hearing the announcement of the fork made me think that dream was really close, but unfortunately the excitement didn't last long.

I feel a great need for a "tame" portage. While the contributions done by the gentoo community are great, I don't see much progress happening in terms of having a portage tree that doesn't change so quickly. That behaviour cannot be tolerated on servers, and I have a hard time keeping up with it even on my laptop. 

I've spent a lot of time recently, to get portage to behave well so I can rely on it for certain tasks. I could easily have spent the time on the xeta package manager. My work is nowhere near satisfactory, and instead of wasting more time on that I could work on xeta, if only the development process was open. The main reason that I got frustrated with gentoo was exactly that, development of main system components wasn't open enough, and now zynot is going that way too?


It's a great shame that this project lost the initial momentum that came with the first announcement. It would have been great if a release was made in those first days. Even if it was all gentoo material, it would have given people a base to work with and improve. This is no longer a fork now, we seem to be starting from scratch and that's a lot harder.

Why don't you open up what's being done, update the wiki, and let people help?

What happened to that subversion server and all the infrastructure that had been setup?


Burcin

PS. I've been having serious email trouble in the last 10 days or so, and I can't follow the mailing list, let alone keep track of personal emails. Please excuse me if I missed anything that happened during that time.