Re: sourceforge miseries

Sam Steingold <[email protected]> Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:07:10 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.lisp.clisp.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Bruno,

> * Bruno Haible <[email protected]> [2018-04-09 22:49:22 +0200]:
>
>> At any rate, do you also want to move the bug tracker? mailing list?
>
> Not at the moment.
>
> For the mailing lists, such a move can be considered later.
> Advertisements in a mail footer are silly.
>
> For the bug tracker, sourceforge is currently OK (now that we have
> learned how to use ``` ... ``` and `...`).

Note that such a change is fairly expensive - our sources and docs are
littered with bug tracker and mailing list URLs.

When they upgraded the bugtracker, it was a matter of a relatively easy
- but time consuming - editing to fix that.
When gmane http access went down, I had to jump though some ugly hoops
to fix the links (see clisp/emacs/misc.el)

I shudder at the thought of what lays ahead ;-)

>> Yeah, but that bug tracker sucks big time.
>> Even SF is better.
>
> The rich text functionality in savannah's tracker is a bit poor, yes. On
> the other hand, I like the categorization / sorting interface.

gitlab/github uses tags, which is more flexible, I think.

Note that savannah is based on an early version of sourceforge (warts
and all).

During the SF bugtracker upgrade they renamed "category" to "milestone"
instead of tag, with pretty funny results.

>> I am not too familiar with gitlab, but its tracker appears to be more
>> modern.
>
> Surely everything Gitlab has is modern. The worry I have with Gitlab
> is whether it will remain easy-to-use and easy-to-administrate 10
> years from now.

We used SF or 18 years.
I am sure that in 10 years we will have to switch no matter what we
chose now (https://thetyee.ca/Views/2004/03/24/Planning_Six_Centuries_Ahead/).

Thanks.

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