Re: clisp release history
Pascal Bourguignon <[email protected]> Sat, 12 Sep 2020 18:20:19 +0200
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--===============1535906597276764577== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ED095A43-2595-48FF-BC0C-52FB484D74B4" --Apple-Mail=_ED095A43-2595-48FF-BC0C-52FB484D74B4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 12 Sep 2020, at 18:12, Don Cohen = <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Someone pointed out to me recently that the release history, > which shows up at the top of impnotes, shows as the last release: > Release 2.49 2010-07-07 sds >=20 > This gave him the impression that there has been no development or > maintenance for the last 10 years! >=20 > I don't think I understand what exactly qualifies as a "release"=20 > or how this is determined. If there are not to be any more > official releases, I suggest that some explanation of that replace > the list of releases, or be added to the list of releases. > And if there actually were, or even SHOULD have been releases in=20 > the past 10 years, that those be added to the list. In days of git, indeed, the notion of release may seem irrelevant. However, it=E2=80=99s a public relation device.=20 A release is something we write to make people aware of our product and = talk about it, and forget about the competition. Some people don=E2=80=99t even care giving release numbers to their = products, they just use the year and month of the release, and they make = periodic releases (monthly, quaterly, etc). Perhaps we could write a release note generation program that would = extract git commit messages and format them nicely to issue quarterly = releases? --=20 __Pascal J. Bourguignon__ --Apple-Mail=_ED095A43-2595-48FF-BC0C-52FB484D74B4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></span></div></div></div> </div> <span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></span><div><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></span><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">On 12 Sep 2020, = at 18:12, Don Cohen <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:</span></div><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Someone = pointed out to me recently that the release history,</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">which shows = up at the top of impnotes, shows as the last release:</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D""> Release = 2.49 2010-07-07 sds</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" = class=3D"">This gave him the impression that there has been no = development or</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">maintenance for the last 10 = years!</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">I don't think = I understand what exactly qualifies as a "release"<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">or how this = is determined. If there are not to be any more</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">official = releases, I suggest that some explanation of that replace</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">the list of = releases, or be added to the list of releases.</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">And if there = actually were, or even SHOULD have been releases in<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">the past 10 = years, that those be added to the list.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""></span></div></blockquote></div><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><div = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">In days of git, = indeed, the notion of release may seem = irrelevant.</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" = class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">However, it=E2=80=99s a public = relation device. </span></div><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">A release is something we write to = make people aware of our product and talk about it, and forget about the = competition.</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: = 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Some people don=E2=80=99t even = care giving release numbers to their products, they just use the year = and month of the release, and they make periodic releases (monthly, = quaterly, etc).</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: = 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Perhaps we could write a release = note generation program that would extract git commit messages and = format them nicely to issue quarterly releases?</span></div><div = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br = class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><div class=3D""><div style=3D"color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">-- <br class=3D"">__Pascal J. = Bourguignon__</span></div><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span= style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><br = class=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_ED095A43-2595-48FF-BC0C-52FB484D74B4-- --===============1535906597276764577== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --===============1535906597276764577== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ clisp-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clisp-devel --===============1535906597276764577==--